Raids

[Doubleblade]

In light of the recent threads, ive decided to make a different one

I know this should be posted in the sugestions section, but we all know that the people that read it are few and besides, our general discussion could use some threads different than the "state of DDO" ones...

Since the new mod5 raid will be in the same style as reaver and titan raid (concerning the pre-quests), why not make Velah and Queen raid as Titan and Reaver?

Theres no reason why we should repeat all Queen and Velah pre-quests over and over again. Its too boring, specially for us old players!

Since there will be a new reward system, and the raids itself are being changed (VoN6 for instance), we should only need to do the prequests once, and then be able, every 3 days, to do VON 5-6.

Furthermore, in order to make some raids less farmable, all raids should have two parts, like Titan and Velah, this way there would be less soloing and less farming. So it would be like:

VoN - do von 1-4 only once to unlock acess to the vault (von 5-6) then be able to repeat it every 3 days upon completion.

Queen - do all three pre-quests once (cof, oob, wiz king) and then unlock acess to queen court (AtDQ 1 and 2) - this quests should be done at the same time like von 5-6 (maybe a gate should open upon completion of part 1) - then be able to repeat it every 3 days upon completion (only AtDQ part 1 and 2 only).

Titan - its perfect as it is

Reavers - do the 3 prequests, gain acess to the Tor but, in order to the the fight with stormreaver itself, we would have to kill the 3 dragons every time, opening the gate to the giant!

All raid quests would be the same, having 2 parts each (less farming and less soloing) and having no prequests to repeat (less boring, would make raids more fun and old raids again more popular).

What do you think?

[Sarezar]

i agree 100%.

note: on the reaver, i would like to be able to repeat dragons though, without having to complete the raid, in order to coolect scales. that's the whole point

[pEEtrs]

NOOOO please NOOOOOO .... no more boring relic / token grinding! I rather do prequests then grind them (and at the end dislike them so much, that i wont be able to do them again).

and imho raid with prequests are less vulnerable to timer exploiting imho.

[Doubleblade]

Originally Posted by pEEtrs

NOOOO please NOOOOOO .... no more boring relic / token grinding! I rather do prequests then grind them (and at the end dislike them so much, that i wont be able to do them again).

uh, what are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Sarezar

i agree 100%.

note: on the reaver, i would like to be able to repeat dragons though, without having to complete the raid, in order to coolect scales. that's the whole point

Yep, we would need to kill the dragons each time, in order to have their blood to enter the stormreaver chamber. The scales would be a bonus

[pEEtrs]

Originally Posted by Doubleblade

uh, what are you talking about?



Yep, we would need to kill the dragons each time, in order to have their blood to enter the stormreaver chamber. The scales would be a bonus

uhhh?!?!?? about changing velah to token based raid like reaver.

[Sarezar]

Originally Posted by pEEtrs

NOOOO please NOOOOOO .... no more boring relic / token grinding! I rather do prequests then grind them (and at the end dislike them so much, that i wont be able to do them again).

and imho raid with prequests are less vulnerable to timer exploiting imho.

nobody said anything about tokens mate doubleblade's suggestion will make raiding easier and more fun.

Originally Posted by Doubleblade

Yep, we would need to kill the dragons each time, in order to have their blood to enter the stormreaver chamber. The scales would be a bonus

i meant, yes, repeat the dragons everytime before the raid, BUT be able to repeat the dragons without completing the raid (cause in Queen, if you complete part1, you can't redo it before completing the raid)

[Siiis]

Great idea, just make all the raids the same as Titan and Reaver, no more von1-4,queen pre's. There's nothing more fruastrating than asking in guild (anyone for queen), and theres is always some player that say's 'sorry need offering of blood,or chains of flame). Shame they didnt do this this really from dayone

[Sarezar]

Originally Posted by pEEtrs

uhhh?!?!?? about changing velah to token based raid like reaver.

he didn't say token based he said complete von1-4, and never needing to redo them to get access to von5-6

[Summerwind]

Originally Posted by Doubleblade

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VoN - do von 1-4 only once to unlock acess to the vault (von 5-6) then be able to repeat it every 3 days upon completion.

Queen - do all three pre-quests once (cof, oob, wiz king) and then unlock acess to queen court (AtDQ 1 and 2) - this quests should be done at the same time like von 5-6 (maybe a gate should open upon completion of part 1) - then be able to repeat it every 3 days upon completion (only AtDQ part 1 and 2 only).

yes please ... i am so tired of rayum & friends that i dont do the queen-raid anymore (although its the raid with the best items ...)

[Doubleblade]

Originally Posted by pEEtrs

uhhh?!?!?? about changing velah to token based raid like reaver.

Nobody said anything about tokens mate, but aparently you need to find something like that in mod5 raid...

Originally Posted by Sarezar

i meant, yes, repeat the dragons everytime before the raid, BUT be able to repeat the dragons without completing the raid (cause in Queen, if you complete part1, you can't redo it before completing the raid)

Yeah, nice point, the quest should be repeatable in order to hunt for scales!