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View Poll Results: So do you want this option to be added in the quest entrance ?
I think that's a good idea 7 58.33%
I think that's stupid 3 25.00%
I don't care 2 16.67%
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default New option when entering a quest :)

As it was discussed on general discution forum, there was a post about friendly fire here
And another evocation of improved AI there (yeah I know it wasn't a proposition ther ejust evocation of what could be a "nightmare")

To do it short the proposition in first is to implememnt the fact that an exploding fireball deal damages even to friendly ppl if they are in range (same with other AOE spells), and in the second it was mentionned a (imo) really good idea of AI improvement witch could be great (the monsters would focus on near to death players ... )

I really would like to see a check box in the pannel when you enter the quest. Once you check this box, the monsters are smarter (it means they start hitting clerics and other casters then ranged then melee (untill they are attaked), they focus on one player if he is near to dead (except if they are intimidated, or that player used diplo etc...), they don't stay in aoe effect spells, casters mobs cast protections against poison or acid to avoid being damaged by CK, etc ... and AOE spells can harm you even if casted by friends.

And all that without giving back some better things. I mean : once checked, only the changes above are done, no better chest no better XP. Just a better challenge, more team work and more fun.

Anyway that's not as if you were loosing something when dying (equipment, money, ... ) you just get XP debt, witch is solved by a good rest and/or some other quests
And it's only optionnal (more often for RP users and in guild party where the team spirit is stronger than in common pugs)

And BTW, this is not my idea just put both ideas together and posted it in the suggestion forum where I think they should be.
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Bah, no "options". The game should be like that. No more "Fight in the FW!" ffs.
But if option is best i can get in this world where WoW has ruined players spines, i take the potion.
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Old 07-06-2007, 05:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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And no more offensive spells from wizzies. That's a really bad idea in fast paced game. Even more as it's sometimes really hard to aim with spells - try to cast fireball far away not aimed on a certain monster - and that's how you would cast it in pnp. Here it's impossible.
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Old 07-06-2007, 08:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Well with an improved targeting system that casts it at the scenery whatever walks in front of your view. The fireball has a much better chance at detonating safely (or safer). Currently if you try to aim at the floor ahead of an ally the spell when clicked will launch directly at the feet of a friendly. thats's occluding your target reticule. It should never target an ally or enemy unless you first click on them. The reticule should always target the projection of the mouse pointer onto the scenery.

Then it'll work, it means you dont cast fireballs at a pack where your mates are fighting unless you know before hand they have fire resistance and fire protection.
These are tactics that worked in Pnp, but so far have no application here.

I'd definitely want to see the 4th option "hard-core" but not really as a another difficulty level, but rather a way to play a particular character as I mentioned in an earlier post.

You could have 6 options for joining a mission.
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[ ]Normal         [ ]Hard        [ ] Elite
[ ]Realistic       [  ]Hard-core   [  ] Extreme
Realistic is the NORMAL difficulty version with friendly fire with bonuses to saves, 1/2 movement slowdown, 1/2 durations, 1/2 spell damage for allies (both sides) (to simulate communication warning your allies so they can avoid the effect better etc)

Hard-core is 75% damage, no save bonuses, at hard difficulty.

Extreme is full damage, no save bonuses at elite difficulty.


You'd be able to play at realistic or normal right from the start.
Keep in mind the friendly fire ALSO occurs for enemies.. so they have to cope with their own side's friendly fire. (AI wise)
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Extreme is full damage, no save bonuses at elite difficulty.
So if i would like to play D&D, i would always try to do quests in elite? Better would be simply extra option [x] D&D rules.
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