Xbox360 Ranks reset after Patch/Update - Page 2

stop4stuff · 06-07-2008, 07:38 AM

i was up til 3 o'clock in the morning the other day to get to elite & now i'm gonna have to do it all again #!!*#!...

oh well, still loads of noobs to beat & as mentioned, the win ratio should be much higher this time round

xX Dr Payne Xx · 06-07-2008, 11:38 AM

dang that blows. Not so much for me, I was only a Sr. Pro, but that is still a little annoying lol. That really sucks for you guys higher up tho!

INSTG8R · 06-07-2008, 11:55 AM

Its quite possible the game mechanics have changed enough that it was necessary to reset everyone. Did anyone think of that?
I get that the achievements are important but if changing the game mechanics to make the game more fair, less exploitable, etc then everyone should have to start over.

I mean the 1.1 for PC changed the overall handling of the cars(no assists) so it had less under steer, technically we all should have been reset too because I know I got faster.

06-07-2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k3ller

god, as everyone is just driving for those fracking archievements. let me tell you, you are playing the game for the wrong reasons. its for the fun, the challange, the fracking gaming experience not for a rank or archievements. its not like youre a better beeing with a higher rank or higher archievement points.

I agree with you.

Get over it, it's only a label and it don't mean ****, it doesn't show if your a good driver or not.

Ice UK · 06-07-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stop4stuff

the win ratio should be much higher this time round

no your races won, lost and pld have stayed the same they have not been reset

M.s.K · 06-07-2008, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice UK

no your races won, lost and pld have stayed the same they have not been reset

so the 'true skill' aka 'false skill' ranks remain!! & this was being exploited by many
(quitters if lower than 1st)

- LoL, what a farse!

**RFT** · 07-07-2008, 08:41 AM

Hi all,
Given the number of reports we've had of people abusing the ranking system to get unfair ranks, it was only fair that we did a reset.

It's never an easy decision to make, and we'd rather it hadn't come to this, but changes in the patch should make gaining those ranking points back fairer.

We'd like to think that people play online for the fun of it, not so much the amassing of points, but if you find yourself in this sort of situation, it's the fairest solution.

eviltedi · 07-07-2008, 11:42 AM

I've liked this game from day one,,, but as I said in another thread I wanted a reset of the leaderboards, I also knew of players that had gained ranks by playing to the games flaws, that's the main reason I stopped, I decided to wait for the patch to see what was changed, I do feel for the players that gained their ranks legit, but, I'm happy I held off until after the patch.

Osan-gar · 09-07-2008, 08:35 PM

Thanks for the fyi, RFT.

While I appreciate the time/ effort to fill us in, your answer didn't answer much.

How is one player's rank unfair to another?

There aren't a limited number of high ranks; they're not gonna run out. Kick-votes don't count more, the higher your rank is. A player's rank is not unfair to anyone else in anyway. If anything, the chuckleheads who can't drive and got their ranks by glitching do the lower-rank players a favor: a lower-rank player who even kinda knows what they're doing is gonna earn more OXP for beating a higher-rank who 'glitched their way to the top'.

Not that it will make any impact, but just as an FYI right back atcha Codemasters: CM is now a used-bin-only developer. This entire release/ patch experience has been a debacle. Overlord 2? GRID2? $20 or less.

Last thing- to those who post just to berate and deride others:

So, you don't think Achievements and Rank are important / worthwhile? Fair enough, you don't need to bother with 'em then eh? Personally, I don't 'play for Acheivements', its a stupid idea. But I do enjoy a lil' personal 'yay for me' moment when I 'achieve' / accomplish something that was difficult for me to do. Achievements? Yes. Gamerscore / points- not even a lil' bit. Which is why I'm pi$$ed about the rank reset. Rank (just like Assissts, Livery, Demolition Derby, LeMans, etc.) is a 'fun-piece'; something that isn't necessarily 'all about the race', but it adds to the suspension of disbelief that you ARE a world-class racecar driver, not JohnQPublic sittin' on his couch. Not important to you? cool. FYI- this thread wasn't about 'things in the game some people like but others don't". In the future, if all you've got to bring to the table is unconstructive criticism and derision.... liyf, don't bother. Just take your toys and go home.

To everyone else,

take it easy.

englishpaul · 09-07-2008, 10:12 PM

As an elder gamer [50], I am pretty fed up at the rank reset, the leaderboard, whilst understandable, was disheartening as I'd legitimately got some top 50 scores, these I can maybe replicate, but the loss of legitimately achieved is totally gutting.

I spent many hours playing numpties just to score the odd point here and there in the hope of achieving Elite [I was up to Superstar *]. It was bad enough that I could only get 1 or 2 points for winning a race in a full room of noobs, but I was persevering. Now I gotta start again?

I'm not sure that I can be bothered

Drive 'em all? I've got all the cars, I've driven them all and yet it still tells me I'm 42/43??? What am I missing there then?

Regardless of what others say, Achievements ARE an integral part of Xbox gaming, if they weren't then why bother to put them in the game at all? To get close to one and then have the rug pulled away is not nice.

I'm disappointed.

06-07-2008, 11:38 AM	#12
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06-07-2008, 11:55 AM	#13
INSTG8R Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 173	Its quite possible the game mechanics have changed enough that it was necessary to reset everyone. Did anyone think of that? I get that the achievements are important but if changing the game mechanics to make the game more fair, less exploitable, etc then everyone should have to start over. I mean the 1.1 for PC changed the overall handling of the cars(no assists) so it had less under steer, technically we all should have been reset too because I know I got faster. __________________ E6600@3.4(watercooled)Abit IP-35Pro Crucial Ballistix PC8500(1134) Sapphire HD2900XT SB X-Fi Fatality Champion TT Toughpower 1.2kW TT Kandalf L.C.S. Samsung 204B 20" 5ms LCD Logitech G25/Playseat Evo \| Logitech G5 \| Logitech G15 Saitek X-52 TrackIR 4 w/Trackclip Pro

07-07-2008, 08:41 AM	#17
RFT Administrator Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,424	Hi all, Given the number of reports we've had of people abusing the ranking system to get unfair ranks, it was only fair that we did a reset. It's never an easy decision to make, and we'd rather it hadn't come to this, but changes in the patch should make gaining those ranking points back fairer. We'd like to think that people play online for the fun of it, not so much the amassing of points, but if you find yourself in this sort of situation, it's the fairest solution. __________________ Rich Tysoe Web Editor Codemasters. www.codemasters.com NB: I'm no longer part of the community team and don't get to spend much time on the forums any more, so urgent moderation or other forums matters need to be referred to Helios.

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06-07-2008, 07:38 AM	#11
stop4stuff Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 74	i was up til 3 o'clock in the morning the other day to get to elite & now i'm gonna have to do it all again #!!*#!... oh well, still loads of noobs to beat & as mentioned, the win ratio should be much higher this time round

07-07-2008, 11:42 AM	#18
eviltedi Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 27	I've liked this game from day one,,, but as I said in another thread I wanted a reset of the leaderboards, I also knew of players that had gained ranks by playing to the games flaws, that's the main reason I stopped, I decided to wait for the patch to see what was changed, I do feel for the players that gained their ranks legit, but, I'm happy I held off until after the patch.

09-07-2008, 08:35 PM	#19
Osan-gar Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: United States of America Posts: 8	Thanks for the fyi, RFT. While I appreciate the time/ effort to fill us in, your answer didn't answer much. How is one player's rank unfair to another? There aren't a limited number of high ranks; they're not gonna run out. Kick-votes don't count more, the higher your rank is. A player's rank is not unfair to anyone else in anyway. If anything, the chuckleheads who can't drive and got their ranks by glitching do the lower-rank players a favor: a lower-rank player who even kinda knows what they're doing is gonna earn more OXP for beating a higher-rank who 'glitched their way to the top'. Not that it will make any impact, but just as an FYI right back atcha Codemasters: CM is now a used-bin-only developer. This entire release/ patch experience has been a debacle. Overlord 2? GRID2? $20 or less. Last thing- to those who post just to berate and deride others: So, you don't think Achievements and Rank are important / worthwhile? Fair enough, you don't need to bother with 'em then eh? Personally, I don't 'play for Acheivements', its a stupid idea. But I do enjoy a lil' personal 'yay for me' moment when I 'achieve' / accomplish something that was difficult for me to do. Achievements? Yes. Gamerscore / points- not even a lil' bit. Which is why I'm pi$$ed about the rank reset. Rank (just like Assissts, Livery, Demolition Derby, LeMans, etc.) is a 'fun-piece'; something that isn't necessarily 'all about the race', but it adds to the suspension of disbelief that you ARE a world-class racecar driver, not JohnQPublic sittin' on his couch. Not important to you? cool. FYI- this thread wasn't about 'things in the game some people like but others don't". In the future, if all you've got to bring to the table is unconstructive criticism and derision.... liyf, don't bother. Just take your toys and go home. To everyone else, take it easy.

09-07-2008, 10:12 PM	#20
englishpaul Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3	As an elder gamer [50], I am pretty fed up at the rank reset, the leaderboard, whilst understandable, was disheartening as I'd legitimately got some top 50 scores, these I can maybe replicate, but the loss of legitimately achieved is totally gutting. I spent many hours playing numpties just to score the odd point here and there in the hope of achieving Elite [I was up to Superstar *]. It was bad enough that I could only get 1 or 2 points for winning a race in a full room of noobs, but I was persevering. Now I gotta start again? I'm not sure that I can be bothered Drive 'em all? I've got all the cars, I've driven them all and yet it still tells me I'm 42/43??? What am I missing there then? Regardless of what others say, Achievements ARE an integral part of Xbox gaming, if they weren't then why bother to put them in the game at all? To get close to one and then have the rug pulled away is not nice. I'm disappointed.