I dont want to use a crossbow!

[Ewlyn Silverbow]

why are the crossbows so damned powerful in this game? its crazy they do so much more damage per hit than equivalent dps bows. I cant see any reason for this, and my elf hunter is never going to use a crossbow, regardless of stats, it would be nice if i wasnt gimping myself because of this!

I feel either bows need more damage, or perhaps crossbows should'nt be able to use abilities such as rain of arrows and swift BOW (not crossbow), as its actually impossible to fire a crossbow that fast!

just my 2 cents

[Therod]

Its impossible to fire a bow as fast as Rain of Arrows ( well and atually hit anything )

its like all games its upto the player, there are faster bows btw which normally have a lower max damage than a same DPS slower bow. the Slower bow would do more damage with skills than the faster and they are both bows

Crossbows do more damage per hit but less hits per minute. on auto shot a 13DPS bow (speed 2.4) and a 13 DPS Xbow (speed 3.4) will do the same average damage over time..
The bow would be better than the Xbow at interupting the enemies casting/shooting..

[Therod]

Also the elf bow bonus to damage does not apply to Xbows.. only bows..

[Belechael]

Originally Posted by Ewlyn Silverbow

why are the crossbows so damned powerful in this game? its crazy they do so much more damage per hit than equivalent dps bows. I cant see any reason for this, and my elf hunter is never going to use a crossbow, regardless of stats, it would be nice if i wasnt gimping myself because of this!

I feel either bows need more damage, or perhaps crossbows should'nt be able to use abilities such as rain of arrows and swift BOW (not crossbow), as its actually impossible to fire a crossbow that fast!

just my 2 cents

Check the relevant thread in the US Forum for some enlightenment. The Americans, as usual, are more into technical details than us, and some have provided the community with excellent data on this subject.

Apparently yes, the xbows are more powerful because the skills check damage and not DPS, and the faster bows can not compete in that area.

However, some tests have indicated that in a long fight the Total damage inflicted from a bow will be roughly equal to the xbow's damage. For short fights the winner is the xbow.

[Iolas]

I use both...

I have an power stealing bow and a High damage crossbow.

But be carefull using a crossbow, because when you are in a Fellowship you will draw Aggro very easy and you will be responsible for whiping out a whole felloship!!

[kowaltig]

you can use a moraledrain xbow for soloing and a powerdraining bow for fellowships

[Ewlyn Silverbow]

Originally Posted by Therod

Also the elf bow bonus to damage does not apply to Xbows.. only bows..

So they are forcing us Elves to use the weaker option? I dont want to turn this into a whine, but if at endgame all the best ranged weapons are crossbows, as they have been so far in the game (my Ferchu does less top end damage than a yellow quest reward crossbow with lower dps!) then it's going to ruin playing hunter for me.

[Teriodin]

I use a bow because I roleplay a bow-using Hobbit Hunter.


I don't care if the crossbows do double bow damage, I'll stick with my bows.

[Finve]

I would like to use a normal bow compared to x, but the stats realy are against that. In my opinion somethning similar to rl shold be done about the two. In other words..... xbow should be a good choice for your all around good guy who uses bow once in a while, but a real bow should be for those who take time learning the TRAIT. As in real life when bow's where used in warfare a skilled bowman was far superior in usability compared to a xbowman. The only trouble was that they didn't have time to train skilled bowmen in the quantities they needed for ever on going battles.

So my suggestion is that usage of a bow in battle should build up a trait wich in turn would in the longrun narrow the gap or even turn it in favour of a bowman.

[Therod]

Originally Posted by Ewlyn Silverbow

So they are forcing us Elves to use the weaker option? I dont want to turn this into a whine, but if at endgame all the best ranged weapons are crossbows, as they have been so far in the game (my Ferchu does less top end damage than a yellow quest reward crossbow with lower dps!) then it's going to ruin playing hunter for me.

The Elf bow trait goes some way to narrow the gap..

If you are Roleplaying your Elf then thats the price you pay. Just like roleplaying a Champion that only uses daggers. Would not be fair to raise the top end damage on the daggers coz your roleplaying.

Ofc a Crossbow could have higher top end damage and less DPS ( damage per second) because it is slower firing... 10-20 damage on a 15 DPS bow speed 1 and a 10-30 damage on a 10 DPS Crossbow speed 2

To the above poster you can only very loosely use RL as a base for such things, this is a game it has balancing to consider..

But to your point Crossbows are easier to learn how to use with greater accurracy/time spent training. ie takes longer to train accurate archers..

Crossbows have better range because they have a higher "muzzle velocity"
Your average soldier could pull more heavier Crossbows than bows the whole 1 hand pull of a bow vs the 2 hand pull to load an Xbow..hence longer ranges on the Crossbow

Yes Bows are faster to reload but Crossbows take no effort to hold ready to fire, whereas a bow does.

also because of the Higher "Mussle velocity" they were easier, no more instinctive to aim at moving targets because you did not have to lead your target so much.