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Old 08-11-2009, 07:27 PM   #81
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Agree, but when i discuss dps i discuss it through my champs point of vieuw. I dont consider other champs, dont know why i should really. Same when im on burg.

I know its about overall DPS btw, why im pointing out that burg only has the edge over champs cus of those high hits. And do you think you will after turtle run have done more dps then champ on burg? out of curiousity cus you mention that boss...
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We were waiting for kanoxa to come to us, since he was afk and then he used stealth to get to the spot as he was afraid he'd get ganked.

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Old 08-11-2009, 08:02 PM   #82
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And do you think you will after turtle run have done more dps then champ on burg? out of curiousity cus you mention that boss...
My burg vs. my champ in damage done... Im not sure who would do most DPS. My burg is always traited MM, but if I would go QK then that would help a little. Champ goes Berserker in Fervour, Flurry and Red Haze. My burg has a little better gear. But I think it would be a close call. Yes I do belive my champ would win, but if my burg also had 10% crit respons skill damage then the result might be different. Im gonna get CStats up and going later at some point and check it out for my chars.
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Old 08-11-2009, 09:11 PM   #83
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By sometimes I don't mean some attacks. I mean some fights, some situations. It can happen and has got nothing to do with champions sleeping. Does not happen everytime. Not often either. But it does happen after all.

Saying "A burglar can never do more damage than a champ" like you are doing now is silly, without even taking other people into consideration. Not every champion and burglar has your characters' damage outputs. So you never came across a burglar that did more damage than you in a fight. That doesn't mean every champion out there is in the same situation. Calling all those champions 'unskilled' or 'asleep' is not constructive. Considering that you might be better is.
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:21 PM   #84
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Nowhere have i put there unskilled, thats you saying that. Cus i actually put i dont know who the champs are...And in certain situations? when i look at dps i dont look at how fast a signature goes down from a burg,champ,RK...I look at it from an entire instance or a big boss fight where as i said several times champs > burgs when it comes too dps in the long run wich this discussion was all about.

Why would i care how fast you get something down everyone can take on on their own. My point is in the long run champs outdps any class. Cus they can just dps non stop without having to worry for certain factors...Ad before bringing up not well geared up champs, well i dont consider other people and their champs cus i look at mine only ( same for my burg) so i know what my champ can deal for damage, same for burg.
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:13 PM   #85
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I feel like I'm having to explain again and again with every post. I'm not talking about signatures. I'm talking about raids. Of course champions are much better when handling the trash pulls at raids. That is a no brainer. Those 'situations' I talk of are boss fights. Single target. Takes long enough so bursts don't affect the outcome, unlike solo fights. I claim a burglar can do more DPS than a champ during boss fights. I don't claim that your burglar can do more DPS than your champ. Since you are only making the comparison between your characters, you will always disagree with me on this matter. And I won't be changing my opinion because I already have experienced such situations myself. No reason to continue this.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:34 AM   #86
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I claim a burglar can do more DPS than a champ during boss fights.
You are free to claim whatever you want. I dont agree with it but then again im free to disagree bout it.

Btw at saying you keep having to explain and explain. Only cus you feel the urge to change my mind or somehow. I dont compare my characters, i actually compare several factors cus you dont know me so you dont know how ive come to that conclusion. Neither do i know you so no idea how you came to yours.

Got a champ btw? make one, grind deeds and gear then talk?
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:00 AM   #87
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so i got 3.3% dev crit and u got 4.4% are u ****ing kidding me???
u believe that having 1 % dev chance more does it any difference?

or maybe ur 2% more crit chance are enough to have more critical blows? O.o

if u believe that so really you have lost the point.

criticals are working as the "Theory of big numbers" if u ever heard of...
the 10% doesnt represent 10/100 , that percentage goes to an infinite number of tries...

to explain better, having a coin toss its 50% each side but!!!
u can toss the coin 100 times and u can have 90 times one side and 10 times the other ...
still percentage is 50% but its applying on a (∞) times of trying

so to conlcude... ur 1,1% dev crit chance its just nothing
Well, if I can keep QK buff up all the time and you cannot, you have a problem, and I dont. So yes, it makes a diference.
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