For the Families, Friends, and Victims of the Fort Hood, TX Massacre.... - Page 2

Stefiroth · 07-11-2009, 04:45 PM

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Nobody knows if it was just because he was harassed and didn't want to be deployed and just snapped, or if there was a deeper, terrorist motive. Eye witnesses are saying he yelled "Allah Akbar" before he started shooting. Police found online records of him praising suicide bombers on terrorist websites. Even more mysterious is that he put on his official military documents that he practices no religion, yet he was born into an Islamic family and has been practicing it since he was a child.

Again, we wont know true motive for quite some time. Or never if he doesn't wake up from his coma.

First of all; for anyone looking for info on this incident i would encourage you to steer clear of mainstream media.

It's been CONFIRMED that the FBI was investigating this man (he was a psychiatrist) yet despite this investigation based on his "suicide bomber sympathy" the relevant authorities saw fit to promote him to Major in the last 6 months. Terrorist or not (lets be honest most probably not) the media WILL spin this as such and i would even guess they would go as far as to link it to Iran - but they wont highlight the White Houses admission of there heavy involvement with the group attributed with recent bombings in Iran

Theres a reason CNN, Fox and the rest of the alphabet gang are going out of business and making a grab for the internet

Rooster1590 · 07-11-2009, 06:40 PM

Well, until the investigation is complete and the man is questioned/tried (if he ever wakes up), nobody will know for sure. I'm definitely not going to say that he is a terrorist with Al Queda affiliations...but I also wont say that he isn't. Not until we know beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And of course the media is going to spin this every which way. They're going to milk this tragedy for all its worth. Ratings will go up and they'll be able to charge more for advertising, etc. It's a sad, sick business.

SmallfrySASR · 08-11-2009, 02:09 AM

The interesting thing I suppose is that people jump to the conclusion that it was a terrorist incident simply because he is of middle eastern background and a muslim. It's extremely unlikely that such thoughts would make it to the media if he was caucasian and catholic, even though there are several terrorist groups based all around the world of which the majority of members match that general description.

However, despite that, I do see a possible link to terrorism here. Recently, a terrorist plot was foiled over here in Australia that has striking similarities. The plot was made by a Somali terrorist cell and the plan was apparently to storm Holsworthy barracks in Sydney with automatic weapons and continue to shoot people until they were shot dead themselves. Notice the similarities here: the plan was attack an army barracks and to shoot until shot, and Somalia is hugely dominated by Muslims following Islam. Not saying that there is a definate link, but you must say that the similarities are striking.

danthom · 08-11-2009, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SmallfrySASR

The interesting thing I suppose is that people jump to the conclusion that it was a terrorist incident simply because he is of middle eastern background and a muslim. It's extremely unlikely that such thoughts would make it to the media if he was caucasian and catholic, even though there are several terrorist groups based all around the world of which the majority of members match that general description.

However, despite that, I do see a possible link to terrorism here. Recently, a terrorist plot was foiled over here in Australia that has striking similarities. The plot was made by a Somali terrorist cell and the plan was apparently to storm Holsworthy barracks in Sydney with automatic weapons and continue to shoot people until they were shot dead themselves. Notice the similarities here: the plan was attack an army barracks and to shoot until shot, and Somalia is hugely dominated by Muslims following Islam. Not saying that there is a definate link, but you must say that the similarities are striking.

I guess the UK should start tightening security, just incase this is a Coalition Home Attack. The other nations should also keep tighter security.

Stefiroth · 08-11-2009, 02:23 AM

and still the point is lost on most people who've read the posts in this thread - this guy was under investigation and was promoted in that period? c'mon, this guy went to Virginia Tech which is linked to another few incidents of this nature

google MK ULTRA if you really want to know what the likely truth is

danthom · 08-11-2009, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefiroth

and still the point is lost on most people who've read the posts in this thread - this guy was under investigation and was promoted in that period? c'mon, this guy went to Virginia Tech which is linked to another few incidents of this nature

google MK ULTRA if you really want to know what the likely truth is

indeed .

Baff · 10-11-2009, 12:31 AM

The likely truth is that he was too mentally weak to surivive the constant ragging and personal abuse he was recieving in the army. Further to this he was under contract and unable to leave this enviroment without facing prison.

Some right ****ers he could not get away from made his life a living hell until one day it was all too much for him.

Much like the fat guy in the film Full Metal Jacket, only he wasn't fat, he was muslim.

That's how blokes treat each other in all male institutions. Prison. The army. Boarding school. That's how it goes.
The core group find someone that doesn't fit in and they ride on him until he either leaves or dies. Or in this case goes ballistic.

Al Quaeda. Lmao. Nope just your regular army life tragedy.

Deepcot only in America.

Jackthe®ipper · 10-11-2009, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Baff

The likely truth is that he was too mentally weak to surivive the constant ragging and personal abuse he was recieving in the army. Further to this he was under contract and unable to leave this enviroment without facing prison.

Some right ****ers he could not get away from made his life a living hell until one day it was all too much for him.

Much like the fat guy in the film Full Metal Jacket, only he wasn't fat, he was muslim.

That's how blokes treat each other in all male institutions. Prison. The army. Boarding school. That's how it goes.
The core group find someone that doesn't fit in and they ride on him until he either leaves or dies. Or in this case goes ballistic.

Al Quaeda. Lmao. Nope just your regular army life tragedy.

Deepcot only in America.

Quoted for truth.

07-11-2009, 06:40 PM	#12
Rooster1590 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Posts: 85	Well, until the investigation is complete and the man is questioned/tried (if he ever wakes up), nobody will know for sure. I'm definitely not going to say that he is a terrorist with Al Queda affiliations...but I also wont say that he isn't. Not until we know beyond a shadow of a doubt. And of course the media is going to spin this every which way. They're going to milk this tragedy for all its worth. Ratings will go up and they'll be able to charge more for advertising, etc. It's a sad, sick business. __________________ Download and play my SP/COOP map: OPERATION: WHITE DAGGER http://www.ofphq.com/download/124-op...-dagger-part-1 http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/o...map/33470.html

08-11-2009, 02:09 AM	#13
SmallfrySASR Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,277	The interesting thing I suppose is that people jump to the conclusion that it was a terrorist incident simply because he is of middle eastern background and a muslim. It's extremely unlikely that such thoughts would make it to the media if he was caucasian and catholic, even though there are several terrorist groups based all around the world of which the majority of members match that general description. However, despite that, I do see a possible link to terrorism here. Recently, a terrorist plot was foiled over here in Australia that has striking similarities. The plot was made by a Somali terrorist cell and the plan was apparently to storm Holsworthy barracks in Sydney with automatic weapons and continue to shoot people until they were shot dead themselves. Notice the similarities here: the plan was attack an army barracks and to shoot until shot, and Somalia is hugely dominated by Muslims following Islam. Not saying that there is a definate link, but you must say that the similarities are striking. __________________ AussieAssault a mod for Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising. Aussie Assault Mod Art Competition FryzieDelta: Veteran of ArmA, VBS1, and the OFP demo

08-11-2009, 02:23 AM	#15
Stefiroth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Glasgow Posts: 525	and still the point is lost on most people who've read the posts in this thread - this guy was under investigation and was promoted in that period? c'mon, this guy went to Virginia Tech which is linked to another few incidents of this nature google MK ULTRA if you really want to know what the likely truth is __________________ "*HY3RiD is right you don't like it don't play it, every person that buys MW2 or any* game that has no dedicated support is basically killing PC gaming**" - viiiper, forum mod and leader in the fight against developers who release games without dedicated server support......

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10-11-2009, 12:31 AM	#17
Baff Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,315	The likely truth is that he was too mentally weak to surivive the constant ragging and personal abuse he was recieving in the army. Further to this he was under contract and unable to leave this enviroment without facing prison. Some right ****ers he could not get away from made his life a living hell until one day it was all too much for him. Much like the fat guy in the film Full Metal Jacket, only he wasn't fat, he was muslim. That's how blokes treat each other in all male institutions. Prison. The army. Boarding school. That's how it goes. The core group find someone that doesn't fit in and they ride on him until he either leaves or dies. Or in this case goes ballistic. Al Quaeda. Lmao. Nope just your regular army life tragedy. Deepcot only in America.