Want RK's to be only dps class?

Haeggblad · 08-10-2009, 02:35 PM

As far as I can see this with the new LI changes is that Runekeepers, the worst class in the game, is going to be "buffed" again. With the changes that all LIs will level to 60, and that thirdagers will level to 60 more cheaply than secondagers and firstagers. This in combination with that dps on a weapon doesnt matter for a RK means they will more easily get a good weap that deals more damage while the rest of the dpsdealing world need to get second/first to get the dps up.

The only thing here that I might have missed is that if the thirdagers gets less legacy points than the others. If not, this is even one more move to increase an even overpowered class.

Dirtball · 08-10-2009, 03:38 PM

Oh please, no more RK threads!

Taur-Alagos · 08-10-2009, 03:44 PM

I find it unbelivable that people start new "RK threads" while there are so many existing already...just unbelivable...

Haeggblad · 08-10-2009, 04:50 PM

It might be so as you say that there are tons of rk threads, but IM pretty sure that none of those threads are concerning the fact that LIs are chaning in SoM thus this thread.

One could also see the thread as a question in how it will be worth to use a 2nd/1st ager in the beginning due to the fact that the 3rd agers will reach 60 much faster with less ixp invested.

Does anyone know if 3rd/2nd/1st get different amount of legacy points to invest?

Spearo · 08-10-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Haeggblad

It might be so as you say that there are tons of rk threads, but IM pretty sure that none of those threads are concerning the fact that LIs are chaning in SoM thus this thread.

One could also see the thread as a question in how it will be worth to use a 2nd/1st ager in the beginning due to the fact that the 3rd agers will reach 60 much faster with less ixp invested.

Does anyone know if 3rd/2nd/1st get different amount of legacy points to invest?

While you have a point about the nature of the thread, it neednt have mention RKs in the title and been more general as there are more dps classes than the RK, and many classes would take umbridge with the RK being referred to as the worst (at least in DPS levels) class.

GNTR · 08-10-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Haeggblad

the worst class in the game,

Thats sarcasm right?

Amphoras · 08-10-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haeggblad

It might be so as you say that there are tons of rk threads, but IM pretty sure that none of those threads are concerning the fact that LIs are chaning in SoM thus this thread.

One could also see the thread as a question in how it will be worth to use a 2nd/1st ager in the beginning due to the fact that the 3rd agers will reach 60 much faster with less ixp invested.

Does anyone know if 3rd/2nd/1st get different amount of legacy points to invest?

Yes, 3rd ages have the least, then 2nd ages and 1st ages have the most, just like it is just now.

Suzina · 08-10-2009, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haeggblad

As far as I can see this with the new LI changes is that Runekeepers, the worst class in the game, is going to be "buffed" again. With the changes that all LIs will level to 60, and that thirdagers will level to 60 more cheaply than secondagers and firstagers. This in combination with that dps on a weapon doesnt matter for a RK means they will more easily get a good weap that deals more damage while the rest of the dpsdealing world need to get second/first to get the dps up.

The only thing here that I might have missed is that if the thirdagers gets less legacy points than the others. If not, this is even one more move to increase an even overpowered class.

...

get out.

Swampster · 08-10-2009, 07:14 PM

*Sigh*

Before everybody starts flaming the OP, he does have a very valid point... although it does apply to all tactical classes, and could have worded/titled it better. But as the RK is a true DPS class (we're often told) albeit tactical DPS, singling it out is appropriate in this case.

The way it appears the new LI's system is shaping up, weapons based DPS classes are going to have to get new LI's after SoM's release to keep up in the damage dealing stakes. A RK, which some suggest is already overpowered won't have to bin his/her first aged stone (if they're happy with the legacies)... and as an added bonus they get a load more points to plough into their damage dealing legacies, effectively a free buff.

A hunter (for example) on the other hand will have to start over, scrap their nice perfect (level 59-60) first aged bows etc, and go look for new ones at level 65, however long that might take... and when they do find one... they have to plough half their points into the DPS legacy.

Before anyone get on their high horse.. I've used the comparison of a hunter/RK in this situation because I have both characters.. and they are the closest comparable that I play. And as far as I can see, there is a HUGE imbalance looming!

Tarmas · 08-10-2009, 11:56 PM

Not sure they will get a load more points to spend. IIRC the dev who posted on the US forums said that lvl 60 items don't have many more legacy points than lvl 50s do. We're assuming the legacy points go on stacking up, but that doesn't seem a correct assumption.

08-10-2009, 02:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Haeggblad Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 57	Want RK's to be only dps class? As far as I can see this with the new LI changes is that Runekeepers, the worst class in the game, is going to be "buffed" again. With the changes that all LIs will level to 60, and that thirdagers will level to 60 more cheaply than secondagers and firstagers. This in combination with that dps on a weapon doesnt matter for a RK means they will more easily get a good weap that deals more damage while the rest of the dpsdealing world need to get second/first to get the dps up. The only thing here that I might have missed is that if the thirdagers gets less legacy points than the others. If not, this is even one more move to increase an even overpowered class.

08-10-2009, 03:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dirtball Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Wales, UK Posts: 516	Oh please, no more RK threads! __________________ Malthalras - Lvl 65 Elf Hunter Aeronhaf - Lvl 65 Woman Lore-mistress Skippo - Lvl 53 Hobbit Minstrel Haffy - Lvl 65 Dwarf Guardian Rhiannun - Lvl 60 Elf Champion Chas - Lvl 61 Man Captain Proud leader of: *The Shadows* [EN-RP] Laurelin

08-10-2009, 03:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Taur-Alagos Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 475	I find it unbelivable that people start new "RK threads" while there are so many existing already...just unbelivable... __________________ Tauralagos Ereth 65 Guardian Tauriel Naer 65 Rune Keeper Taurien Erethren 60 Lore Master Taureth R6 Weaver [EN]Eldar --------------------------------------------------- Only a few are looking forward with optimism...

08-10-2009, 07:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
Swampster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 666	Sigh Before everybody starts flaming the OP, he does have a very valid point... although it does apply to all tactical classes, and could have worded/titled it better. But as the RK is a true DPS class (we're often told) albeit tactical DPS, singling it out is appropriate in this case. The way it appears the new LI's system is shaping up, weapons based DPS classes are going to have to get new LI's after SoM's release to keep up in the damage dealing stakes. A RK, which some suggest is already overpowered won't have to bin his/her first aged stone (if they're happy with the legacies)... and as an added bonus they get a load more points to plough into their damage dealing legacies, effectively a free buff. A hunter (for example) on the other hand will have to start over, scrap their nice perfect (level 59-60) first aged bows etc, and go look for new ones at level 65, however long that might take... and when they do find one... they have to plough half their points into the DPS legacy. Before anyone get on their high horse.. I've used the comparison of a hunter/RK in this situation because I have both characters.. and they are the closest comparable that I play. And as far as I can see, there is a HUGE imbalance looming! __________________ Swampson Bogthallion - Hunter (65) Swampo Boggins - Burglar (60) Swampriel Bogelven - Rune-Keeper (63) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Boggyluk - Warg Stalker (R4) Last edited by Swampster; 08-10-2009 at 07:17 PM.

08-10-2009, 11:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tarmas Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,299	Not sure they will get a load more points to spend. IIRC the dev who posted on the US forums said that lvl 60 items don't have many more legacy points than lvl 50s do. We're assuming the legacy points go on stacking up, but that doesn't seem a correct assumption. __________________ Tarmas, 65 Elf Champion, R11 Veteran Tarmeg, 60 Elf Guardian, R3 Neophyte Tarmil, 53 Elf Warden, R0 Tarmakh, 65 Orc Reaver, R5 Tormenter Nost Mellyn, Eldar

08-10-2009, 04:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Haeggblad Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 57	It might be so as you say that there are tons of rk threads, but IM pretty sure that none of those threads are concerning the fact that LIs are chaning in SoM thus this thread. One could also see the thread as a question in how it will be worth to use a 2nd/1st ager in the beginning due to the fact that the 3rd agers will reach 60 much faster with less ixp invested. Does anyone know if 3rd/2nd/1st get different amount of legacy points to invest?

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