Dev chat 3/2

[Ganoderma]

Here's the (raw) dev chat from today.
I'd make it all shiny with bold and colors but it's 1AM here now... will do it tomorrow (if nobody else did)

[00:03] LOTRO Chat Leader (officiallotro5): Hello Everyone and welcome to the chat with the team at Turbine! I'll let them introduce themselves, then they'll start taking your questions! Take it away guys!
[00:03] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): Howdy, I'm Floon, Art Director for Lotro. I am a cranky old man.
[00:03] Turbine_Sapience (turbinesapience): HI I'm Sapience, part of the community team, and no you cannot have my Pew Pew! *looks at Constant Gardner*
[00:03] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): Hello everyone, I'm Rowan - Live Producer for LOTRO. and Floon is a cranky old man.
[00:03] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): Hello, my name is Jalessa - I'm a systems developer here at Turbine. I work with Monster Play and other assorted systems here on LOTRO.
[00:04] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): Hello, I'm Amlug, instance designer, raid designer, and other things content...
[00:04] anon11: Hello! Constant Gardener, Game Systems Designer
[00:05] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): People here are typing, trust me.
[00:07] Turbine_Sapience (turbinesapience): (n1n3mill): What new features can we look forward to with mylotro.com and will there be anyway someone can add their ingame friends list to their mylotro.com game list?

That's a great idea! We do have a lot in store for my.lotro.com. In fact I was just watching a demo of some of the things the team is working on for our next update. I think you'll be very happy with all of it. We just can't tell you...yet.
[00:08] anon11: Is there any chance of fixing pet pathing in for LM pets? I'm tired of starting a battle only to see my pet 5 feet behind me just standing there. :-)

We’re looking into that right now! It’s something we’ve taken to heart and QA is checking out hotspots with pathing even now.
[00:08] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): Jubjub (breadie): SPC Burris [3rd ID] (ltnightmare): The Art is amazing! How did you manage to come up with ideas and designs for most of the armor and weaponry in the game?

Your question is amazing! And thanks!

We do a lot of concept art. We read the books a lot. We pore over encyclopedias and architecture books and reference books. And we do more concepts. When we come up with a concept we really love, we start building out from there. Add more and more details to support that initial vision, and just keep going.
[00:09] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): BaByBooM- Freak (babybodom): what is about the 3 man instances... they are fun and fast... lots of people like it... question is will there be more and if so will there be also more of instances like midnight raid or library of steel (for legend weapons exp)

We like 3 man instances too! We are going to be doing more of them in the future for sure!
[00:09] <[Xf Helper] MasterRen (masterren) is nu lid van groep Moderator>
[00:10] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): Shyloren of Brandywine (n1n3mill): I am only into my second month of LOTRO and the game is fantastic. Are you planning on releasing retail expansions every year?

We definitely want to keep the pace of content coming. At Turbine it's not just about retail expansions... we pride ourselves on consistently growing the world and adding more fun things for you to do. (Asheron's Call is now approaching it's 10th year of this.)
[00:11] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): Jubjub (breadie): arc| NestorC (nestorc): Are there any members of the original AC/AC2 team in the LOTRO dev team?

Yeah, there are a few folks who worked on AC and AC2. And of course the AC team sits within nerf-gun distance of the lotro team.
[00:11] <[Xf Helper] Supercop007 (supercop007) is nu lid van groep Moderator>
[00:12] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): mutraslura: What can you tell us about new raids? Will it make in book 7, and what will we see for new for the raiding?

We like raids too! There is definitely a raid coming for Book 7. It is a 12-person raid and hopefully you will love it! We will continue to support raiding in the future as well.
[00:14] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): Ragter (ragters): Will we see a 24 man raid coming in the next book or two?
[00:14] Turbine_Sapience (turbinesapience): There is much furious typing going on.
[00:14] anon11: The burglar is one of the stronger classes in the game, but it hasn't seen any real changes since the beta. Do you have any plans for adding/changing of their skill sets?

All the classes are evolving including the Burglar.
[00:14] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): Amlug is having trouble finding the shift key....
[00:15] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): Sorry... reposting....

Ragter (ragters): Will we see a 24 man raid coming in the next book or two?

We are focused on 3-mans, 6-mans, and 12-mans right now but who knows what the mysterious future will hold. My magic 8-ball says "Wait and see..."
[00:15] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): [Xf Helper] Jubjub (breadie): BaByBooM- Freak (babybodom): about PvMP you have done alot since moria came live, but it has never been more unrevording for peeps then before... ranking is only for fun and no real think to get from that (pardon me)... my question is... will you add new stuff in pvMP for peeps, maby new area, or better items, new quests and way of fights... pvmp instances maby? (btw. great job on adding destiny points for freeps)

We're always looking to do new things to keep interest in PvMP, and we're definitely not stopping with this book. Book 7 will include updates to Glan Vraig chests (new loot, including chances for IA loot) and updates to boss loot in the Delving will hopefully entice Free Players to come back out. I also hope to continue to enhance the reward system in other ways (better rank items) through later books).
[00:17] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): Astillius (astillius): Seeing as Christopher Tolkien won't give up the rights to the "Silmarillion" and "Unfinished Tales" books, What do you plan to do with game content regarding those and the lore they create for LOTR?

We plan on not infringing on the rights to those works. There's plenty to LotR yet to do, and that is enough to keep us busy.
[00:18] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): Serenity (serenity777): Having jusy started playing less than a month ago, I am loving this adventure! But, I was expecting to see a wizard type class, will this ever be an option?

Part of the challenge of developing a game based on Tolkien's work is the specific nature of his world. Some archtypes such as "wizard" are not part of this world... well at least you already know who they are. What we can do is continue to find fun options for new classes that fit within this world, such as the Warden and Runekeeper.
[00:19] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): khrain: Why no useable campfires in Moria?

Good question. Sounds like something to discuss with the world team.
[00:19] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): wickedpt (wickedpt): Any ETA on Book7? Pretty please? I have cake. *wink*

I like cake.
[00:20] anon11: Tactical damage currently does not scale well past level 40. On top of that resist rates are too high and the current system of "hit or miss" makes playing a tactical damage class handicapped. What changes can we expect to see made to the combat system that will allow for Rune-keepers to do the damage they were advertised to do? Will Rune-keepers ever be a viable main DPS class like Hunters and Champions?

The Runekeeper will be getting some buffs shortly. Though it’s worth noting we didn’t make any changes to DPS form 40-50, they are the same as they were in SoA. As always we’re keeping an eye on monster strength.
[00:20] Turbine_Sapience (turbinesapience): wickedpt (wickedpt): Any ETA on Book7? Pretty please? I have cake. *wink*

Soon (TM)
[00:22] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): Jubjub (breadie): schneevs (schneevs67): I just love the new addtions to the game...any plans for new monster classes to be added?

Not at the moment We've got our hands full with the warg, spider, orc, and uruk classes we currently have.
[00:23] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): BaByBooM- Freak (babybodom): when moria came out you made many new outfits (for general items, not just "outfits") many look cool and interesting.... will there be more of those sets with diferent and unique style? specially for light and medium armour (to look more serious and not to colourfull)

We love making outfits. They're pretty time-consuming, which is why we don't make gobs and gobs and gobs of outfits every book. But the outfit system has proven to be one of the most popular additions to the game, so we are always adding at least a couple new outfits every update. There's a nice Lorien-style dress in Book 7, and some new armor textures for the Lorien armor.
[00:24] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): (toktic): Ganoderma (ganoderma): I'd like an adress book for people. I keep forgetting what exact neighborhood or house people live in

That's a very cool idea
[00:25] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): Draimen (only1war): will any earlier instances that not many people do anymore, be Revamped to get people back into them?

This is definitely an idea that has been tossed around. Stay tuned...
[00:26] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): (garian07): Will there be kinship cloaks in the near future

That's hard. We don't have the ability to take on player-generated content in the form of textures, so that means we need to add new cloaks. We're always adding new cloaks. But enough to keep up with all the kinships out there? I *do* like to leave the office and see my family on occasion....

[Ganoderma]

[00:27] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): wickedpt (wickedpt): What do i have to do to go work at Turbine? =)

turbine.com, we have a jobs page.
[00:27] anon11: [Xf Helper] Jubjub (breadie): SPC Burris [3rd ID] (ltnightmare): A lot of time was put forth in the creation of the minstrel class. How did you ever find such an idea and add onto it to make it a fun and enjoyable class to play?

Ultimately this is a good time to clarify how class creation works. We’ve got a team of people that work on the classes, no one person is responsible for every aspect of class development. It’s a team effort, from art to design. We’ve got a team of people who review all the changes. The minstrel as a songster, was a great idea that was around before I came on the team, and it has evolved from there. It was born out of the desire of being able to “heal” players without using “true” magic.

Thanks for the compliment, we’ll pass it along.
[00:28] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): sageofsaria: Newer players have complained of the tough beginning to the games, and many a time give up before they get to higher levels; what do you plan to do about this?

We want the game to be approachable and fun, especially to new players. This is something we'll be taking a look at in the near future. Thank you for the feedback!
[00:30] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): (boak): any plans to allow players who can only wear light armor, to cosmetically equip medium or heavy armor?

That sounds like it would just create a weird, confusing situation. Preserving *some* distinction between classes seems valuable to me.
[00:32] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): hankt354: I still have left over tokens from the seasonal games. Will those ever be useful again?

By all means, if you have the bank space, hold on to them! The tokens are re-used when the festivals reopen each season. Keep coming back to spend them. We also add new things to each festival, so it pays to come back and check out what we've added!
[00:34] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): Hankyone (hankyone): Any word on the possible "Month of the Kinship" mentioned in a previous dev chat?

Patience gives me daily beatings for that comment now. As always we're balancing all the great ideas that are in progress for the game. It's important to make the right trade-offs. We're definitely tossing around options and ideas... until then, the beatings shall continue!
[00:34] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): (toktic): I among many would love to have the ability to cosmetically equip weapons/shields. Is this something we can hope to see? Is this something that needs background tech changes to see [and if so, what are they]?

You: preacher. Me: choir. I too want this: gaurdians getting to pick the appearance of their shields, that seems pretty obvious to me. Unfortunately, things aren't structured in such a way to let that happen. Things you wear, they go through one system. Things you hold, they go through another. We did a lot of work to allow the appearance system for things you wear to permit outfits. There is much work to do if we want to get into shields and weapons. Many folks want it, many of us want it, but it's a big task. For now, we must commiserate together.
[00:34] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): (thompir): Who onthe team found it necessary to increase the bust size for elves and how can I get him on my Christmas card list? :0

Cards may be sent to me, c/o Turbine.
[00:34] anon11: [Xf Helper] Jubjub (breadie): ryswald55: Are there any plans to buff Fellowship Maneuvers? They have received much neglect in recent months it seems. Damage didn't scale well at all (just like the tactical scaling issue question you answered earlier) and there is no benefit to doing a complex FM (like BRGYBR) over a relatively simple one (GGGBB or RRRRRG).

It was a known issue, that made content very sad (points at Amlug) that conjunctions were a bit overpowered in SoA. Effectively expert players were working our poor creatures over and it made both casual players upset (about how much better coordinated groups seemed) and it made designing challenging content tough. So the changes here were deliberate, however, we are constantly evaluating our changes, we want it to be rewarding, but not game breaking-ly so.
[00:35] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): I agree!
[00:37] Turbine_Sapience (turbinesapience): Ragter (ragters): Will you guys consider adding a volunteer from the community to help bridge the coummnity to the devs... i.e. a community rep for each class?

This is a great idea. We're always looking for new ways to interact with our players and collect useful feedback. We have some things in mind that we hope will address this. Hypothetically.
[00:37] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): Aries (ariesofdoom): Will we see mroe emotes in the future? I sure miss my /lick

We have a couple coming! (Including a few for monsterplay!)
[00:38] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): (unclecid): How awesome is Elendilmir the Jewelled Bell of Servers?

*jingle* *jangle*!
[00:38] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): *jingle* *jangle*!
[00:38] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): *jingle* *jingle* jingle* *clang*
[00:39] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): Go [Jewelled Bell]!
[00:39] Turbine_Sapience (turbinesapience):
(unclecid): How awesome is Elendilmir the Jewelled Bell of Servers?
Floon stole my Jingle Jangle!

[Ganoderma]

[00:41] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): (ganoderma): Will there be new instruments soon? either complete new or tier 6 ones because we minstrels still have to use our old, worn instruments

We will be introducing tier 6 instruments with Book 7
[00:41] anon11: [Xf Helper] MasterRen (masterren): wickedpt (wickedpt): Can you explain the un-legendary Sticky Gourd Lore-Master skill? Why is a level 60 skill worst than our level 1 skill. Lore-Masters have allways been a very imaginative class. Every skill usually has somekind of buff/debuff/cc component to it. But this one, our last skill in the game simply seems lackluster. Can anyone comment on that?

Ultimately, we had to be very careful with giving the LM a strong direct damage component. Like many of our post 50 skills, it’s their upgrades that make them strong. (Having you seen the flaming pyres of goblins?)
[00:42] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): Ragter (ragters): Will we be seeing a new hobby coming in the near future?

We are considering a few ideas. For now, I can neither confirm nor deny... but I'd be happy to hear your suggestions!
[00:43] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): Bephwyn (bephwyn): When will Isengard be open for Applications again?

The Isengard private test environment has not gone away... it's just been sleeping for a little while. When we reopen it I expect the team will post this on the forums along with notifying folks that are already part of that community. Book 7 is coming!
[00:44] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): Moir (xmoirx): Hi team and happy new year, Moria is a very dry place, we need a Place to go have a few drinks in the evening and play a few tunes, is there any plans for a bar MOM?

Who knows where the adventures of the Inn League will take us next. We fully intend on supporting more Inn League shananigans!
[00:44] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): smokeymcg33k): could we see more non-quest type player interaction? sports is a cool idea, maybe some other stuff too

Hobnannigans!
[00:45] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): *sigh* Floon!
[00:45] Turbine_Sapience (turbinesapience): Hobnannigans! *hides*
[00:45] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): A lot of player-player interaction is difficult to synchronize between all clients and the server, so there are technical hurdles to overcome to make for enjoyable experiences.
[00:46] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): Sapience, go play some freeze tag.
[00:46] anon11: [Xf Helper] Jubjub (breadie): Banshee (s2banshee1020): Will Minstrels see a buff to their healing abilities? It is almost impossible to keep up with the damage mobs do in some Moria instances.

Healing has definitely become harder. (Remember Amlug being sad in SoA about things being easy?) Our instance loot got a big buff in Moria, and so did the challenge level of those instances. Though ballads will begin to impact your healing output post book 7, and the Watcher of Resolve trait line will increase the magnitude of that.
[00:49] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): khrain: The hook system that is used in housing is....unpopular. Any plans to change to a more free-form style?

We're always looking at ways to improve housing. The hook system is what we could do for the live product, to provide as much functionality as possible, and make the limits on house decorating as clear as possible. We're hoping to look at it again in the future, but (as I say a lot) it's a Big Feature, and A Lot Of Work, and we have A Lot Of Other Things To Do.
[00:51] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): smiljan66: i really like to meet gollum

He's creepy, and smells like rotten fish. Give him a wide berth.
[00:51] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): And he's in the Trollshaws!
[00:52] anon11: [Xf Helper] Supercop007 (supercop007): sageofsaria: Many players complain about the new player classes being better than older playing classes; what do you plan to do about this?

This is in the eye of the beholder, I’ve read the Rune-keeper isn’t as good as the Hunter? Which is it? J As always we’ll look at each of the classes and make sure that they can serve in their primary roles.
[00:53] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): Ragter (ragters): Can we expect to see the rest of Lothlorien and perhaps beyond in bk7 or maybe even new parts of Moria?

We are opening up all of Lothlorien for Book 7. It is coming out really well and I think after several months of the darkness of Moria, you will all be very very happy with what we've done. But be careful, the elves don't take kindly to stangers... time to make friends!
[00:54] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): We're really proud of Caras Galadhon. The artists and world builders involved have really created something special. Hie thee hence.
[00:56] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): Wow, the hour, she is almost gone.
[00:56] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): That was fast.
[00:57] anon11: [Xf Helper] MasterRen (masterren): Banshee (s2banshee1020): Who's idea was it to add -1000 mentor cooldown for a Minstrel legendary trait? It always makes me laugh when I see that.

I laugh too! But seriously, the dreams of Minstrel’s making thousands of gold using their mentor skill cooldown items in Moria, will be sailing into the west shortly.
[00:58] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): (cymbol): Goat mounts can be used outside of moria. Was this intended?

Well the lore states pretty clearly that horses wouldn't go into Moria. This doesn't mean that other things can't come out.
[00:59] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): (toktic): Does that mean we'll need to earn reputation with the Elves of Lothlorien like we did with Forochel?

Yes. We are building a very nice reputation system with Lorien. Our goal is to support the lore of Lothlorien and the elves and not let everyone waltz into their sacred home but at the same time we don't want to make the reputation gates too grindy. We are working on the balance now and we are pretty proud of what we've come up with... For those who may have had dealings with elves of Lorien before Book 7, you may find it even easier to get in...
[00:59] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): Supercop007 (supercop007): Hankyone (hankyone): Will the new Lothlorien quests be Worth doing for a lvl60?

Absolutely. The quests will help you get tokens to exchange for cool new reputation items (including recipes for some of those nifty new tier 6 instruments I hinted about earlier). Amlug's dev diary (coming soon) will have more information for you on Lothloriens quest and reputation system.
[00:59] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): OK, not answering a question now, just saying things. Personally, I'm really looking forward to Book 7 and opening up Lorien to you guys. We wanted to ship with all of Lorien in the expansion, but when we realized we needed more time to do it right, we took that time. I think we've done it justice, and can't wait for everyone to have a look.
[01:01] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): Thanks for having us for this chat. Be sure to tune in to my cranky answers to various questions in the forums.
[01:01] Turbine_Amlug (turbineamlug): Thank you guys for some great questions and some pretty funny ones as well! We are as excited as you to play the new content in Book 7 and beyond!
[01:02] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): Thanks all! *jingle* *jangle* (I just wanted to ring the bell again)
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that's it

[mandarina1]

seriously reading that and some of the questions asked im convinced that Katie Price and peter Andre play Lotro. At least some had the common sense to ask some driving questions. Don't the people asking questions really understand its limited chance to get to the crux of whats coming up. What do we get,

[00:10] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): Shyloren of Brandywine (n1n3mill): I am only into my second month of LOTRO and the game is fantastic. Are you planning on releasing retail expansions every year?

Doh

[00:27] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): wickedpt (wickedpt): What do i have to do to go work at Turbine? =) turbine.com, we have a jobs page.

double doh


[00:18] Turbine_Rowan (turbinerowan): Serenity (serenity777): Having jusy started playing less than a month ago, I am loving this adventure! But, I was expecting to see a wizard type class, will this ever be an option?

doh

[00:27] anon11: [Xf Helper] Jubjub (breadie): SPC Burris [3rd ID] (ltnightmare): A lot of time was put forth in the creation of the minstrel class. How did you ever find such an idea and add onto it to make it a fun and enjoyable class to play?

mm level 20 minstrel me thinks

[00:32] Turbine_Jalessa (jalessa): hankt354: I still have left over tokens from the seasonal games. Will those ever be useful again?

selfish moi?

[00:34] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): (thompir): Who onthe team found it necessary to increase the bust size for elves and how can I get him on my Christmas card list? :0

a career in stand up comedy awaits

[00:38] Turbine_Floon (floonbeetle): (unclecid): How awesome is Elendilmir the Jewelled Bell of Servers?

i can show you a place it wont jangle much


So next one in 3 months now is it?

props to those that asked about raids, minstrel's, class balancing etc

On a constructive note, cant we just have a week where questions can be pm'd to satine and collated, for relevance to all. Then added to the forum as a vote or just simply directly to the dev's. If dev chat frequency is being nerfed lets use it so much more wisely.

[Alash]

Originally Posted by mandarina1

On a constructive note, cant we just have a week where questions can be mp'd to satine and collated, for relevance to all. then added to forum as a vote or just simply directly to the dwv's if dev chat frequency is being nered lets use it so much more wisely.

I agree with this. Seeing that we're on the wrong side of the ocean there's no day-to-day communication with the ones making the game we all love so much, and dev chats just got nerfed with Book 6½, so I'll be damned if half of the transcripts are pure spam.

I bet Turbine would be afraid of such a concept though. The questions would be far too intelligent and hit much too hard for any dodging "jingle jangle" replies. The way things are now they can joke about without ever really saying anything, and still say they've made a dev chat. Politicians at work, ladies and gentlemen.

[Skarra]

Originally Posted by mandarina1

i can show you a place it wont jangle much

lol!

As always, a couple of tid-bits and a lot of fluff, some of it pure padding/time-killing. And how they kept a straight face with regard to the Minstrel issues...

One key missed question, imho, should have been: If Lothlorien was originally planned as part of the Moria expansion, what *would* the devs have been working on for the past 2.5 months had it made the retail packs back in November?

[mandarina1]

Originally Posted by Alash

I agree with this. Seeing that we're on the wrong side of the ocean there's no day-to-day communication with the ones making the game we all love so much, and dev chats just got nerfed with Book 6½, so I'll be damned if half of the transcripts are pure spam.

I bet Turbine would be afraid of such a concept though. The questions would be far too intelligent and hit much too hard for any dodging "jingle jangle" replies. The way things are now they can joke about without ever really saying anything, and still say they've made a dev chat. Politicians at work, ladies and gentlemen.

agreed in it's present guise its just a waste of time and highlights them as people just wanting to prat around with the little time we are accorded. I'm all for a joke but if this is what we get is it really that funny.

[tmp]

Originally Posted by Ganoderma

[00:41] anon11: [Xf Helper] MasterRen (masterren):

Ultimately, we had to be very careful with giving the LM a strong direct damage component.

Ahahahaha :snort:

On slightly more serious note, surprising there haven't been a question about possible tweaks to the legendary items system, lackluster quality of the 'higher end' items, terrible state of crafting etc. Wonder if there was no interest or if these were just quietly pushed under the carpet.

[Doctorfun]

No questons about two of the game's main issues: Tier 6 crafting and LI system

Censored? Triple Doh

[blinkydafish]

Originally Posted by tmp

Ahahahaha :snort:

On slightly more serious note, surprising there haven't been a question about possible tweaks to the legendary items system, lackluster quality of the 'higher end' items, terrible state of crafting etc. Wonder if there was no interest or if these were just quietly pushed under the carpet.

agreed.. LI crafting is 100% wasteful of the mats... and same with most end game craft as the set items are easier or cheaper to get, (say there are 3 tiers to make it easy) the tier 1/2 armour wont sell for more than 700s... flakes on the other had sell for 1g+ adn ull want 2 to make an item so thats 2g.. why anyone would do that i dont know.. some items are needed like offhand weps and shields but thats not even 1/5 of the craft.... as for LI crafted stuff. its a waste of mats, CDs and time.... oh no im mistaken i can give it a funny name befor i trade it in for 1 relic ^^