Official A.I times are indeed fake (T4RG4 twitter post)

[mr2shim]

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Originally Posted by Noelinho

I mean The times shown as recorded by the AI don't match the time it takes them to lap the circuit.

Originally Posted by T4RG4

Because we couldn't make them compete in Qualy this time out Looking to sort that though

[Dethmanrulz]

that's just about Quali. Someone should ask him about race split times and such. RACE times.

[Crowsy]

Looking to sort it out in a patch or for a future game I wonder?

[Simsimius]

Yes, quali times are.
Race times are not [unless there is substantial evidence to prove otherwise].

[GeorgeL9]

Yep, well done, a few hours late but that is the evidence for fake qualifying lap times. What we don't have clarification for is the supposition that AI times during the race are also fabricated.

As I've said, I can live with the times being made up in qually as it really doesn't matter that much how the times get on the sheet - you still have to beat them. the only problem I see is that it makes the AI immune to traffic problems. And that it somewhat kills the immersion.

However, if the race times are also faked then I take huge issue with that.

[mr2shim]

Originally Posted by GeorgeL9

Yep, well done, a few hours late but that is the evidence for fake qualifying lap times. What we don't have clarification for is the supposition that AI times during the race are also fabricated.

As I've said, I can live with the times being made up in qually as it really doesn't matter that much how the times get on the sheet - you still have to beat them. the only problem I see is that it makes the AI immune to traffic problems. And that it somewhat kills the immersion.

However, if the race times are also faked then I take huge issue with that.

Maybe someone should ask him on twitter. I don't have an account otherwise I would.

[F1Racer]

If someone hadn't noticed, CM wouldn't have told us either. Isn't that misrepresentation ?
So how many other short cuts and omissions have they done ?

"Live the life - Except qualifying, we faked that bit"

[GeorgeL9]

Originally Posted by mr2shim

Maybe someone should ask him on twitter. I don't have an account otherwise I would.

Neither do I. I'm sure several people have already asked him anyway, judging from the uproar in the other thread.

[mtknot]

Originally Posted by mr2shim

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Its good that they've admitted it, but it doesn't really change much/mean much for me; as long as I can play the game and have fun its all right.

I do believe you can put the blame solely on the ego engine which has been doing this for DIRT2 and GRID, as they both are games which don't have a good time-tracking/AI system, and thats down right to the core of things.

Personally I find this as something rather menial and meaningless, because in the end the game is raceable, and what happens in race is fun. Its the net enjoyment which counts, not the gross elements which in the end don't matter in my opinion. I reckon we'd save a lot of wars and people if people could think like that.

Also with the F1 license so restrictive (need to relase in the same season/homologation rules), i think codemasters now realises why nobody in the last four years has developed an F1 game - its ridiculously restrictive. This explains the usage of the EGO engine.

This is my theory as to why the game hasn't been as polished as they would and we would have liked - issues with the ego engine when coding the physics. Under normal object acceleration the ego engine seems fine, but whenever massive changes in direction occurs the engine 'lags' behind and the result ends up as an artifact. Therefore they had a massive headache trying to correct the engine, thus time spent.

[tioslash]

Originally Posted by GeorgeL9

Yep, well done, a few hours late but that is the evidence for fake qualifying lap times. What we don't have clarification for is the supposition that AI times during the race are also fabricated.

As I've said, I can live with the times being made up in qually as it really doesn't matter that much how the times get on the sheet - you still have to beat them. the only problem I see is that it makes the AI immune to traffic problems. And that it somewhat kills the immersion.

However, if the race times are also faked then I take huge issue with that.

For me it kills a lot of immersion by faking ANY kind of lap times. But yeah, need confirmation on the Race laps subject, although I`m pretty sure something is wrong there aswell.