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Old 03-03-2010, 03:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Greetings fellow EU'ers!

I'm just starting up this thread for www.thefatlute.com to give us a place to collect feedback and suggestions from your community, as I understand not many of you have access to the US forums.
For anyone that hasn't used it, The Fat Lute is a database of many ABCs for you to play in-game. It's also a place for you to learn how to make your own ABCs.

We're spending a little time doing updates to the site, and really just want to know what else you'd like from us. So if you have any suggestions, please share them!
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ofc the site has been know to us small Europeans for a long time At least to some of us (to me only recently).
Very nice with a nice collection of songs. I'm using it quite often now and i like it how it is
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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indeed
An excellent site. I always direct people to Fatlute if they have question about where they could find solo/mulitparts songs
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Just a little suggestion on the administration of the multipart songs. May be that you are aware of it And have reasons to not use it. (I havent seen it's used on the site.. may be blind hehe)

But I prefer to put all the instruments-part into one file only (it saves an amount of files into the music folder, and is more organized)

So instead of save one file pr. instrument and save them as: Hereclarinet.abc, HereLute.abc

I only save the song as Here.abc (And in this file every multipartintruments is placed)

The instruments can be defined with the index number. Is the first notation in the ABC- file. An ABC file always start with X:1

So let’s say I have a 4 part song. The first thing I do is to put all the ABC part into a txt file. Just right after eachother, no lines to separate the files (linebreaks is ok) Then I look at the indexnumers on the different parts. They all have indexnumber 1 (X:1) But this number must be unique for the different instruments. So before I start organizing the indexnumber I have a list of which instruments I would like to belong to a certain indexnumber.


(example)
X:1 = Lute
X:2 = Harp
X:3 = Theorbo
X:4 = Flute
X:5= Horn
X:6 = Bagpipe
X:7 = Horn
X:8 = Moor Cowbell
X:9 = Drums


Then I start to change the indexnumber on each instrument in the textfile. After I am done I save the file Here.abc

Type /play <songname> # sync; in the chatwindow
Fluteplayer need to type like this: /play Here 4 sync . Then the musicsystem know to play x:4 part of the song. (flutepart)
If all the numbers are the same, you can keep consistancy between the songs and you won't have a HUGE list of files/songs when you do /playlist


Just a suggestion If you want to organize the musicfiles in another way in the future
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Ohh that is a very nice suggestion! That would definately also make it easier for "newbies" like me.

Just make sure the instruments always have the same number all over the fat lute site
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Old 10-03-2010, 04:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Cheers for the Fat Lute and a greeting

Hi,
I play on Elendilmir (US) from the midwestern US but bounce around to other servers where concerts by various groups are happening.

Hooray for the Fat Lute! You'll find several pieces of mine there. I wondered if European players have similar treasure troves of song files.

The group I'm in, the Eriador Music Society led by Keptwise, puts on concerts weekly and around holidays and for special occasions when we're asked, like in-game weddings. Some of us use keyboard aliases to "sing" the lyrics to our arrangements. Music-related gaming is almost the only gaming I do now.

The EMS uses a forum site called the Songbook of Laurelin.

Almost all my ABC arrangements I do by hand, though I've started to learn the Anvil Studio/Lotro MIDI Player technique.
On my workbench right now: 10-part arrangement of Holst's Mars from The Planets.

Hats off to all our European counterparts, and to Figgy for managing the Fate Lute!
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Just a suggestion If you want to organize the musicfiles in another way in the future
If I'm understanding you correctly, this is an option already! You have to be a registered member for it to work though. On the main song page at the left you'll see a cart with a green + on it. click it to add the song to your download cart. then you'll see this option:



It creates a single file with different X options. The only thing is I don't think there's a standardised number for lute/harp/horn etc. I'm not sure because I never use this feature. I prefer my parts to be in different files rather than different X numbers. I'll have to ask Warden for ya.
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:25 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Ahh thats excellent Leixlip

Just me that missed it
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I had a chat with Warden about the functionality of this. At the moment it just creates the X parts in random numbers. like theorbo or lute aren't anything specific. If you want to generalise it and have every lute part as x1 and every theorbo part as x2 it's fine until you get duplicate instruments. We figured that since there is no universal solution to this, that we wouldn't change the way it works. You can, however, change the ABCs manually to a system you'd be happy with if you can't abide by the random nature. It wouldn't take that much effort to organise them.
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I had a chat with Warden about the functionality of this. At the moment it just creates the X parts in random numbers. like theorbo or lute aren't anything specific. If you want to generalise it and have every lute part as x1 and every theorbo part as x2 it's fine until you get duplicate instruments. We figured that since there is no universal solution to this, that we wouldn't change the way it works. You can, however, change the ABCs manually to a system you'd be happy with if you can't abide by the random nature. It wouldn't take that much effort to organise them.
Yes.
Thank you for the respond
It seems the site have everything needed to make people play ABC the way they want
Good work
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