Where did all the Will go?

[Aquatia]

as the title says, not 1 bit of will on the radiance set for hunts and on most pretty sweet jewelry, granted lots of power but no will, i was sat at over 300 pre moria, now im struggling to keep above 120. 5k moral, 2,5 power with 800+ icpr is sweet, but my ICMR is almost as my OOC-PR,.,.,

LTT-- 150 might for 150 will please

[Silmahad]

as the title says, not 1 bit of will on the radiance set for hunts and on most pretty sweet jewelry, granted lots of power but no will, i was sat at over 300 pre moria, now im struggling to keep above 120. 5k moral, 2,5 power with 800+ icpr is sweet, but my ICMR is almost as my OOC-PR,.,.,

LTT-- 150 might for 150 will please

I wonder the same, will is my lowest stat (~ 200) and I have real problems to raise my power pool over 2500 with buffs.

The only reason I can see is that Turbine wanted to limit Burn Hot use, cos this skill isn't affected by incombat powerreg, but it's limited by your power pool.

[Sidamos]

I've noticed this as well. But except a few jewels there isn't really a way to increase it.
But you can easily boost your power over 3k trading in other stats for it. However the
will points are pretty limited.

[nightbyday]

I agree Will does seem some what of an issue, however one could say you swap out one triat for 30 will to start (90 power) and then swap out another two jewelery items for some more and so on. So i would say there is enougth Will in game to be had but you will have look at jewelery, off hand, relics and traits to bring the balance up sacrificing some thing some where else (a hard thing for agility junkies to do).

As for Might, or rather why might over Will on hunter items? Simply i would feel this is because you could possiably opt for trapper of foes etc which makes a melee build more influenced by might.

You just cant have is all.

Personally i have ignored all the legendary trait builds and opted for my own 'hybrid' build. I never run out of power or even get close to half a pool whilst in precision stance and swap between all my stances with out a thought concerning power issues in fellowships. Solo wise i run through 5-6 level 60 orcs before i am dry and even then a pot or 'intence concentration' will bring me back enougth for the 6th or 7th. From that point of view i don't see the need of more will.

However i did notice i can be affected by 'cower' more than i used to be (i came back from a res in the forges and just cowered till i popped a hope token) and if i get get one of those 5-10min shadow debuffs i can actually end up with negative will. To aviod this i have the option of slipping in 30 will to trait build have a weapon with will etc.

So i will agree it would be nice to have some will maybe atleast another 30 points built into hunter specific items.

[Ravbek Treehugger]

I have over 3k power with will around the 300 mark....4.2k Morale.

There is stuff about if you're "willing" to reduce other stats.

[Noerenn]

2x golden earring will increase your power a lot instead of 2x diamond stud, but will reduce morale. :( Also the helm drop from the stair has a lot of will on it, i use it in ettenmoors for some more power and fire defense, you will only lose a few morale if you have the radiance helm from DD.

[Aquatia]

i had a mess around with traits, equipment, LI's and so on. The problem i came across was'nt running out of power. i have more than enough and can manage it pretty well but the regen out of combat and the cowering, even resisting the cowering was a no no.
After looking whats available and what build im currently sat in i know i'll find it hard to ''run out'' im sure an agilty junkie as i am can sacrifise a little as i have because i can tell you 30 will does make a huge diff in regen when below 200 will. I was sat at over (yes over) 600 agil ( a waste i know) and after testing i have sacrifised over 70 agilty leaving me with 550 agil atm, sweet moral/power/ranged crit and decent will with good icpr, the last 70 agility was just a huge waste with the higher end returns, just never knew they was so bad until now.

[Silmahad]

I switched burnt cloak in for Ferongol, and a charm bracelet for an insidious cuff (I have even two of these bracelets) and as a last option I can switch Khazad gold bracelets in.

So I can get my power pool up to over 2600 unbuffed at least, at the cost of some moral (4600 moral instead of 4900).

I am still hoping for an ancient signet pendant and an amber ring drop. This will bring up my powerpool even more.

[Belechael]

I see people running around with items that give them either absurd amount of will or morale and I just can't stop laughing.

As several others have pointed out you can't have it all. You have to carefully select your items in order to get the best results.

Sure, you can go 2 insidious cuffs+2 diamond studs, getting a lot of morale, but you will suffer in the icpr department and power reserves.

If you use 2 golden earrings and crafted lvl 56 bracelets you will lose a lot of morale, so... use 1 of each :)

You may even have to switch items for solo and fs play, and I'm guessing pvmp play, as well as traits and virtues.

[OMWiener]

I see people running around with items that give them either absurd amount of will or morale and I just can't stop laughing.

As several others have pointed out you can't have it all. You have to carefully select your items in order to get the best results.

That's quite condescending and for your information, there is no best result anymore. If you want, you can go and take a peek on the US forums in the jewellry thread. You'll notice a lot of discussion, which means opinions are divided.

Sure, you can go 2 insidious cuffs+2 diamond studs, getting a lot of morale, but you will suffer in the icpr department and power reserves.

Says who? I've got 5.1K morale and 3K power and 850icpr. I definitely don't "suffer" in the icpr departement or in the power reserve. I've yet to encounter a boss where i need to deplete my power pool, except the watcher. And if i do run out of power, there's always power pots. If you wanna run around with 1000+icpr and don't wanna use power pots ever, that's your choice. Doesn't mean other options are less viable.

If you use 2 golden earrings and crafted lvl 56 bracelets you will lose a lot of morale, so... use 1 of each :)

The balance you are proposing means nothing if it isn't needed. Why would you balance power for morale if you don't need to? Why would you balance morale for power if you don't need to? As long as you have between 4 and 5K morale and between 2.3K-3K power, you are good. The rest is personal choice.

[Belechael]

That's quite condescending and for your information, there is no best result anymore. If you want, you can go and take a peek on the US forums in the jewellry thread. You'll notice a lot of discussion, which means opinions are divided.

There is and never was a best configuration for every situation. Ok, I must have inspected hunters with jewelry full of power or full of morale that were built for a specific task.


Says who? I've got 5.1K morale and 3K power and 850icpr. I definitely don't "suffer" in the icpr departement or in the power reserve. I've yet to encounter a boss where i need to deplete my power pool, except the watcher. And if i do run out of power, there's always power pots. If you wanna run around with 1000+icpr and don't wanna use power pots ever, that's your choice. Doesn't mean other options are less viable.


That was a simple example that speaks of its own. The cuffs have almost half the icpr that other bracelets have and the studs don't have any will or power, unless I forget something. The fact that you are wearing 2 of each and have high icpr and 3K power means you compensate with other items. Am I wrong?


The balance you are proposing means nothing if it isn't needed. Why would you balance power for morale if you don't need to? Why would you balance morale for power if you don't need to? As long as you have between 4 and 5K morale and between 2.3K-3K power, you are good. The rest is personal choice.

I didn't start this thread asking for more will. I just wanted to show that you can have adequate power and icpr without losing much morale. What is needed or not comes only after personal experience.

Was that better?

[OMWiener]

actually it was better, but no i'm not compensating for the studs or the bracelets honestly cuz i don't need to.

[Silmahad]

actually it was better, but no i'm not compensating for the studs or the bracelets honestly cuz i don't need to.

Maybe you will need to after B7, with nerfed BoR.

I am glad to have two charmed bracelets already.

[OMWiener]

off course, but i'm used to changing my build. Although when in endurance i have no trouble at all power-wise and that's without the trait equipped anyway. If i run into trouble, i'll re-equip it again i guess.

[LAW666]

i got high agility 579, fate and will around 200/300 mark can rem specifically atm, i have 4800ish morale and around 2500 power, dont have many power issues that a pot cant take care of....gear or jewels i have atm are diamond stud, sublime dawn rose earring, insidius cuff, sublime dawn bracelet, memorial plaque pocket item ( i won it and it was better than the painted vain lol) sapphire ring, another quest ring lengamels i think ...i get a nice boost with certain relics added to my LI for will n fate etc