View Full Version : Why you should choose this class ?
Heldafor
15-11-2007, 04:00 PM
Hello everybody its heldafor :)
Im just looking for all of your veiws about this class if they are a good class to go for a new player?
Just tell me abit about the class for a new player to see how good this class really is in the game.
If you read this Thanks for Reading and if you do tell abit about this class thanks aswell
Local_1
15-11-2007, 04:42 PM
Well I have played most classes up until level 12 at least.
I have found a Hunter the most entertaining by far. He without doubt soloes the fastest.
If you have ever gone to the Rift yet, Hunters come into their own at , at least 3 bosses Hunters do most of the work to get the kill.
Dirtball
15-11-2007, 05:23 PM
If you have ever gone to the Rift yet, Hunters come into their own at , at least 3 bosses Hunters do most of the work to get the kill.
It's attitudes like this that give Hunters a bad name imo.
Yes we do have a big part to play in the Rift but so does every single member of the raid that enters regardless of class. How do you think those 3 Hunters were able to whack the bosses with loads of DPS and not get killed along the way? A combined effort is the answer.
No single success is the result of one class in places like the Rift, it takes everyone working as a finely tuned machine to make it happen.
Local_1
15-11-2007, 05:36 PM
It's attitudes like this that give Hunters a bad name imo.
Yes we do have a big part to play in the Rift but so does every single member of the raid that enters regardless of class. How do you think those 3 Hunters were able to whack the bosses with loads of DPS and not get killed along the way? A combined effort is the answer.
No single success is the result of one class in places like the Rift, it takes everyone working as a finely tuned machine to make it happen.
Perhaps it was taken in the wrong context, I raid the rift as a Captain and I know if it wasn't for the hunters we probable could not kill some bosses. Yes I quite agree it is a team event.
But recently there has been many threads saying that hunters were no longer the dps class and many say that hunters are not needed in fellowships is what I was getting at.
Lunchboks
15-11-2007, 11:53 PM
Why do people actually suggest that Hunters are 'not' now a dps class? What happened? All i see is the Hunters DPS being the best there is (Allbeit marginally).
Sry to digress but i keep hearing the same thing regarding this. Utter twaddle =p
*Edit - I see you wrote 'people are saying the hunter is no longer 'the' dps class.' this makes more sense.
I know hunters were not supposed to be 'the' dps class or maybe even 'a' dps class but Nuker could definitely be construed as dps imho.
Bell of Eternity
16-11-2007, 02:28 AM
Hunters probably still are the best single-target DPS class, especially if your Heartseeker is not on cooldown. At least until you run out of Power, and I think hunters consume it faster than Champions... However, hunters' survivability is down the shaft. Zero heals, and needing to concentrate on Agility, Fate and Wisdom leaves less room for building up Morale, which makes them squishy. No CC to speak of except one arrow that slows down enemies in certain stance and one melee attack that also slows them down. Then there's the 10 sec fear, but that breaks on damage and feared mob calls MORE mobs to battle once fear breaks. Traps are noncombat ability so you can't lay them down while you flee. Well, there's trap ITEM you can use in combat, but since that is something you need to buy as opposed to innate ability, it doesn't count (same way as pots don't count as healing ability). The only saver is long-cooldown Desperate Flight which works even in combat and shunts you to the nearest rally circle (respawn spot). No stuns, no mezzes, no buffs (well we can count our three shooting stances as buffs I guess), no pets and runspeed buff doesn't work in combat.
Or to shorten that up, if hunters bite more than they can swallow they're closer to death than any other class, having the least amount of tactical or crowd control abilities. Hunters really are mostly a powerful nuker - so powerful that a less accomplished guardian may have trouble holding aggro. Which may turn into a problem if group has insufficient healing to throw around on the squishies.
Having said all that, I still like my hunter even after coping with the power cost nerf (solution: more power and faster regeneration paid in extra squishiness) and fear nerf (solution: I don't rely on fear as viable tactic). I just wish there was a bit more to it than 1-2-3 nuking and taxi service.
Belion_
16-11-2007, 09:21 AM
people arnt complaining because we arnt good DPS anymore they complaining because we only slightly better DPS then lore masters and champs and for us to have good DPS we need to make large sacrifices to morale / power.
however to the OP. just dont pick our class :D theres so many of us atm its not funny. and from wat ive heard elven hunters are basically the bulk of the RP server populations (aka everyone wanting to be legolas -.-*)
nightbyday
16-11-2007, 02:07 PM
people arnt complaining because we arnt good DPS anymore they complaining because we only slightly better DPS then lore masters and champs and for us to have good DPS we need to make large sacrifices to morale / power.
however to the OP. just dont pick our class :D theres so many of us atm its not funny. and from wat ive heard elven hunters are basically the bulk of the RP server populations (aka everyone wanting to be legolas -.-*)
#cough#
Hunter is decent dps but high burst dps they have a tendency to power curve off over time.
Hunter = nuker = large amount of damage very short time. This is exampled in the way hunters solo.
I well played well specced LM or Champ can out DPS a hunter and visa versa, it is recognised hunters are tabled 3rd over all for DPS by design. However in some situations (i.e left do nothing but shoot... which hunter are best at) hunters will always top the tables and will have a tendency to violently grab aggro off a tank (maybe due to sudden lucky rolls and a few HUGE crits).
So lowest DPs? no way, the best Dps? (better than Lm or champ) it is situational.
As for people rolling elves for hunters, hunters in short are agility junkies by nature (and also inbreed from other games) so the urge to take advantage of elf racials are high. It is worth noting at this point when players get to 50 a vast amount go DOH! wish i had rolled man.
from an RP point why roll elf you will never beat legolas so why bother :)
on subject of why choose hunter?
It is one of the best classes if not the best class to roll and learn the game (explore get used to game mechanics etc).
Bearmug
16-11-2007, 02:29 PM
When I bought the game, I started testing chars. Elf hunter was 4th char I made, and one I play the most. I picked elf cause it was 4th on my 'left to try' list, and actually it worked. I like the playstyle :). No big philosophy, especially since finding an analisys of different classes on these forums is almost impossible - only thing there is, is on main site and that's not much :).
Ninerivers
23-11-2007, 09:23 AM
however to the OP. just dont pick our class theres so many of us atm its not funny. and from wat ive heard elven hunters are basically the bulk of the RP server populations (aka everyone wanting to be legolas -.-*)
Too right - trying to get a balanced team together is getting very hard - I've made a burglar alt now as some classes just don't seem to exist! There's bazillions of hunters and captains, but burglars and champions are in short supply
Cantra
30-11-2007, 12:53 PM
It is one of the best classes if not the best class to roll and learn the game (explore get used to game mechanics etc).
True that. Also don't be put off by the multitude of whining cry-baby hunters who are screaming and stamping their feet in almost every Hunter forum on the planet. Bleating we've been nerfed into oblivion and all the usual crud. It's simply not accurate.
I dusted off my old (book 9 geared mind you) Hunter and went spanking some turtles and mammoths/giants to see what all the nerfing fuss was about. Didn't have any problem. You simply have to adjust some tactics and use more of the tools in our hunter bag-of-tricks. Bow chants, potions, traps. Use them. They work.
The whiners of this class (and that constitutes the majority of lotro whiners) are the ones who are unable/unwilling to adapt and want a plinky-plinky uber crit unkillable god-mode. No challenge and no fun.
If you can be arsed. Make an alt who does weaponsmithing/historian tradeskills. That will attend to all your potion and trap needs.
Don't pay any attention to the cry-babies. They just make us look ridiculous. A well played hunter is a ton of fun, and a huge asset to any group.
Daguras
30-11-2007, 01:26 PM
I agree with what Cantra said and have said things like that since the first *ahem* "nerf". It's all tosh, the changes balanced the class, made us use skills we didn't need before and made the whole experience more enjoyable.
A lot of hunters have left because they can't nuke everything in 2 seconds, chain fear EliteMaster/Nemesis mobs, get a few resists every now and then, pull agro after 1 skill, can't be bothered to finished deeds for the trait increases, change armour/weapons and so on... a good hunter will make mobs drop like flies, take little or no melee damage, and not pull agro unless intended and even then control it effectively with fear, snares and a whole range of traps. I've grouped with other hunters on both my main toons and had many different experiences... contrary to many comments we're not a fire and forget class and need to stay versatile so we don't pull agro off the tank or main DPS, break stuns/mezzs/roots etc.
Yes the travel skills are convenient but shouldn't be seen as essential to the class as most locations have some kinda of stable/swift travel and many locations can be reached via reflecting pool then exit the instance. They make the game world seem a lot smaller too and definitely takes away some of the sightseeing experience when you can just use a skill and travel from Thorins Hall to Rivendell and beyond.
I've played my hunter since the original release and seen it through all patches learning and making mistakes along the way. Found my feet around level 20 and developed it from there, lots of new skills and traits along the way and lots of group experience both good and bad. It takes time to learn this class as with any other, but get it right and it's awesome fun!
Anyone on Gilrain is welcome to group with me for mindless killing or help with random quests/mobs or to talk about the class and share ideas... just send a tell when I'm not in an instance :P
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