The best bows a Hunter can get.

[Araldor]

Thaught i would just make a post of some of the best bows i have seen so far in Lotro. I know there are more and it would be nice if people could post shots of epic bows they have managed to get there hands on with a little info about where or how they got it.


http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2339/fortifiedet6.png (http://imageshack.us)

Crafted By GM Woodworker, Crit Bow from 'Reinforced Black Ash Bow Recipe' Bows on ah for 500s.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5471/bofdg7.png (http://imageshack.us)

From Forvengwath, first boss in Barad Gularan. East Angmar.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4858/celegdurui1.png (http://imageshack.us)

Quest Reward for killing Stórvagun and winning the Stórvagun's Emblem Of Loyalty in Helegrod. Hand in the Emblem to get the bow.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2093/cothts0.png (http://imageshack.us)

Quest Reward from Class Quest. Hand In Putrid Slime Of Helchgam amongst a couple of other items to get this bow.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6188/ornatecd4.png (http://imageshack.us)

Crafted by GM Woodworker, Crit Bow on Single Use Recipe 'Ornate Black Ash Bow Recipe'

[erkyn]

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7990/cuthoronnb4.jpg

Dropped off last boss in the Ost elendil instance in Annuminas. :) I luuv it!

[Dirtball]

Our kin still haven't managed to take down the last boss in Ost Elendil. We get wiped as soon as the first sister calls her other 2 sisters into the fight. Just too many ghosts to cope with. I found my induction bar going up and down like a yo-yo. Shortly after I was dead :)

Fortunately I have Bane of Forvengwath which is one helluva nice bow.

[THE_WARLORD]

Very nice bows indeed. Bane of Forvengwath is the best for sure.

[Farstrike (temp)]

Celegdúr seems like the nicest one to me. Sure, it doesn't have any +crit% or morale draining proc, but the high min-max coupled with Beleriand-type damage looks impressive to me.

Crossbow of the Hunt would be the weapon of choice for Sarnúr, of course.

[Fingoldrom]

Celegdúr seems like the nicest one to me. Sure, it doesn't have any +crit% or morale draining proc, but the high min-max coupled with Beleriand-type damage looks impressive to me.

I agree, specially for the ettens, that Beleriand riand wil cut straight throught the dirty orcs. One could get a real damaging HS off if you got lucky with this bow

[Araldor]

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7990/cuthoronnb4.jpg

Dropped off last boss in the Ost elendil instance in Annuminas. :) I luuv it!


Wow thats a nice one you got there, thanks for showing us. Off to Annuminas i go!

[Araldor]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2968/cumaento9.png (http://imageshack.us)

Get a Firey Quartz from within The Rift to get the bow.

[HardOnails]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2968/cumaento9.png (http://imageshack.us)

Get a Firey Quartz from within The Rift to get the bow.

to fast

way to fast ...

90% of what matters on a bow is the min-max damage the rest is just icing on the cake

[Druman]

The only bow that is useful in the game now is the emote /bow. Cause that one might get you in a group! The one in your hand most certainly wont.

[Sy-]

The only bow that is useful in the game now is the emote /bow. Cause that one might get you in a group! The one in your hand most certainly wont.
As cynical as it sounds, it is quite true to a certain degree. It's not the power of your bow, it's how well you wield it. A good bow wouldn't go amiss though. :)

On the flip side, while your personality and demeanor should be the first and for most thing that gets you into a group, your weapon and armour can also help if they are looking for a 'top end' player.

Your gear can show your dedication and to some degree your skill with your class. If you have a top end bow (or armour) that's hard to acquire, it must mean you're doing something right.

Having said that, I'm joining every group I can that goes into BG to try and get Bane of Forvengawath. :D

[Araldor]

The only bow that is useful in the game now is the emote /bow. Cause that one might get you in a group! The one in your hand most certainly wont.


Wow you're really clever to work that out all on your own. GZ!

[nightbyday]

Wow you're really clever to work that out all on your own. GZ!


spot the difference between RP and Non RP servers ? :P

[Araldor]

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8462/gilnorrc2.png (http://imageshack.us)

Another great bow, havent got a clue where it came from but hopefully someone will be able to say.

EDIT: Thanks to nightbyday. This bow should drop as a random drop in Carn Dúm or from a chest in Helegrod.

[nightbyday]

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8462/gilnorrc2.png (http://imageshack.us)

Another great bow, havent got a clue where it came from but hopefully someone will be able to say.

Db says helegrod chest or random drop CD

[Araldor]

Ah, should have looked myself, nvm. Anyway thanks for finding out that info. :)

[Daguras]

Yeah Gilnor looks cool, I have all except the Rift bow, Cuthoron and that one so I'll need to keep a look out for it. If anyone wants to post a pic of them equipped in in dressing room it'd be appreciated :)

[Araldor]

Yeah Gilnor looks cool, I have all except the Rift bow, Cuthoron and that one so I'll need to keep a look out for it. If anyone wants to post a pic of them equipped in in dressing room it'd be appreciated :)

Same here i have all the bows except from those 3. Gonna take a bit of luck or a LOT of grinding to get my hands on them i think.

EDIT: Managed to get a pic of the other bow class quest item Lv45.

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6392/bohad4.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Druman]

Wow you're really clever to work that out all on your own. GZ!

Saved you the time of not managing to work it out :)

[Araldor]

Saved you the time of not managing to work it out :)


You're right. Thanks! :D

[Belion_]

bow of the righteous trait with bane of forgenvath is a great combo.

getting morale and power back on ur hits is the best thing ever :D

[Elromir]

to fast

way to fast ...

90% of what matters on a bow is the min-max damage the rest is just icing on the cake

I'm new to the class, just finding out its mechanics, so when you say that, do you mean that the best bows are the ones with highest max damage (since thats whats used to calculate skill damage, much like melee skills)?

[Daguras]

do you mean that the best bows are the ones with highest max damage (since thats whats used to calculate skill damage, much like melee skills)?

Depends what you consider to be "best". A slow bow with big top end damage (Celegdur) will give you the most damage on skills but a slower induction/queue time between attacks whereas a fast bow with lower top end damage (Ornate Black Ash) will fire much faster but for slightly lower damage from skills. For example, a slower firing bow which does lots of damage won't be much use against a fast moving mob (longhorn/caveclaw/boar using sprint skill) - one shot to pull it, then maybe another before its in melee range and if one misses it's a pain. A faster bow might hit for slightly less but with rapid fire you can get in an extra skill or two before the mob gets to you but with higher power cost due to getting through skills quickly - try using a 2.2 bow with your Needful Haste and captains attack speed buff for extreme rapid fire.

For huge damage, endurance and power management I use Celegdur (buffed to 850/min in combat pwr regen + BotR + slightly slower firing = rarely below 50% power at full DPS). For pretty decent damage + debuff & heal procs I use Forvengwaths bow and I now use Gilnor (yay, got it same day as my last comment) for extreme threat reduction on top of traits, whisperdraw and the occasional use of beneath notice.

Forvengwaths bow is by far the best all rounder and easiest one to get. Drops 1 in 5 from the boss IIRC and only takes 5-10 mins to kill him... you just need to get to the instance in one piece ;)

[aegenor]

Forvengwaths bow is by far the best all rounder and easiest one to get. Drops 1 in 5 from the boss IIRC and only takes 5-10 mins to kill him... you just need to get to the instance in one piece ;)

I needed 15 runs and heard from others which had to kill him about 30 times. But it's still easy to get it you don't even have to be in a complete group.

[nicbass]

you just need to get to the instance in one piece ;)

Dead easy if you've done bk9 chp2 - just use the Reflecting pool to re-enter the instance & then, once you're in, turn around and exit via the door. Hey Presto, you're outside the BG instance without all that nasty mucking about getting there...

[Dirtball]

A slow bow with big top end damage (Celegdur) will give you the most damage on skills but a slower induction/queue time between attacks whereas a fast bow with lower top end damage (Ornate Black Ash) will fire much faster but for slightly lower damage from skills.
I'm not entirely sure this is true. From what I know and have read, currently the speed of the bow only affects auto-attack and not the induction time of any skills used.

[Turkisch]

I'm not entirely sure this is true. From what I know and have read, currently the speed of the bow only affects auto-attack and not the induction time of any skills used.

That's true. Too me though it also looks like you fire normal attacks with less pauses in between for auto-attacks. If that makes any sense :)

[Elisar]

true.. thats why max damage bow is always best choice no matter what speed
200+ more damage cant be compared with 0.2 (or 0.1 in some cases) quicker auto-attack...
it maybe have difference with tanks/champs because they have only 1 bow skill (if i remember correctly).
i so miss my xbow of Minas Angos (when he had 112 damage) :)

[Daguras]

I'm not entirely sure this is true. From what I know and have read, currently the speed of the bow only affects auto-attack and not the induction time of any skills used.

Less waiting between auto attacks = more time to use skills = all round faster bow with slightly lower damage, like I said. .2s might not make much difference but when switching from 2.8 speed Celegdur to 2.2 speed Ornate Black Ash, that .6 of a second makes all the difference...

After 10 attacks (auto or skills) thats a 6 second difference - enough time to kill... or be killed because you can't shoot fast enough :P

There's another teal bow BTW - drops from 4th hilt boss in Fornost apparently, level 42 and Hunter-only. Looks exactly like Celegdur but with Ancient Dwarf damage... I can't remember the name though (Thunder-something). A minstrel linked it in chat a few days ago expecting to sell it and I can't help feel sorry for the poor hunter he'd ninja'd it from :/

[Dalin]

The problem is most induction times + fire animation are more then 3 seconds.

So most of the time you'll be firing your arrows just as fast with a 2.2 bow as with a 2.8 bow. The only difference is that on skills with no inductions the 2.2 will be faster, but that doesn't make up for the sheer amount of damage a critical hit from the 2.8 bow does.

[Daguras]

The problem is most induction times + fire animation are more then 3 seconds.

So most of the time you'll be firing your arrows just as fast with a 2.2 bow as with a 2.8 bow. The only difference is that on skills with no inductions the 2.2 will be faster, but that doesn't make up for the sheer amount of damage a critical hit from the 2.8 bow does.

This makes no sense whatsoever unless you've never actually compared the extreme bow speeds. 2.2 seconds between attacks is faster than 2.8 seconds, and shorter delay between attacks means you can use more skills in a shorter period of time. Enough said. And if a skill has no induction, how can you use it faster? It has NO induction and tends to be pretty much instant if you don't have skills or the next autoattack in the queue.

Go roll a guardian or champ and compare a dagger (1.7) with a 2 handed axe (2.8+)... exactly the same principle. Even better, compare the difference when you have all induction-reducing class traits slotted. Then go duel a hunter with the same armour/weapons but no induction traits and wait for him to complain about your rapid fire interupting his skills ^_^