Hunter go on strike

[Sirak]

As we are supposed to take over the role of the taxi in the game its time the taxi-drivers go on strike!

Everytime someone asks: "Is there a hunter outside who can port me to ...?"

answer

"As the hunter class got nerfed again and again all of us are now on strike! No more public transport for anyone until the developers of the game react to our complainings. This is the first part of the hunter-strike, more might follow!".

Send this message everytime, just keep it in copy-paste, so our message will spread fastly and encourage other hunters to follow!


What we want:
- Legendary traits which are worth the name
- Not to be the only class which can't solo mobs
- Not to be the only class withoug in-combat healing

[Insomniel]

As we are supposed to take over the role of the taxi in the game its time the taxi-drivers go on strike!

Everytime someone asks: "Is there a hunter outside who can port me to ...?"

answer

"As the hunter class got nerfed again and again all of us are now on strike! No more public transport for anyone until the developers of the game react to our complainings. This is the first part of the hunter-strike, more might follow!".

Send this message everytime, just keep it in copy-paste, so our message will spread fastly and encourage other hunters to follow!


What we want:
- Legendary traits which are worth the name
- Not to be the only class which can't solo mobs
- Not to be the only class withoug in-combat healing

Wow, got the very same idea :) We could also turn off "Find the Path" while in fellowships :)

[FordPre]

Erm hunter legendaries are far far beter than champion legendaries, absolutely none of which are worth the effort. If you cant solo with a hunter then you must be doing something wrong as I know hunters that easily down high level elites including snowback and turtles that a champion and many other classes would struggle doing. The final part well you can use pots, not as good as in incombat heal I know but you cant get everything your own way, hunters have many many skills that means they are one of the easiest to solo.

[Dirtball]

Erm hunter legendaries are far far beter than champion legendaries, absolutely none of which are worth the effort. If you cant solo with a hunter then you must be doing something wrong as I know hunters that easily down high level elites including snowback and turtles that a champion and many other classes would struggle doing. The final part well you can use pots, not as good as in incombat heal I know but you cant get everything your own way, hunters have many many skills that means they are one of the easiest to solo.
*Passes flame retardent jacket to FordPre*

[Fingoldrom]

Whilst i agree with some points, i disagree that we need a healing skill, thats what we got healers for. The campfire works fine for me.

However, i personaly dntuse the travel skills as i feel they ruin the realism of the game, and i would much prefer them be replaced by stealth style skills, after all, i belive that an elf hunters were masters of attacking there enemies from secret.

More sort of like the camo skill

[Felindor]

Erm hunter legendaries are far far beter than champion legendaries, absolutely none of which are worth the effort. If you cant solo with a hunter then you must be doing something wrong as I know hunters that easily down high level elites including snowback and turtles that a champion and many other classes would struggle doing. The final part well you can use pots, not as good as in incombat heal I know but you cant get everything your own way, hunters have many many skills that means they are one of the easiest to solo.

Gah....Why everybody think hunter class in overpowered??? Omg...it's just an urban legend!!
Yes, some of us killed Snowback and some tough elites in the past (is that a crime?), but never as easy as other classes can. And I usually had to carry some food/pots to defeat them.
If u champions, lore masters or minstrels can't easily kill those elites, then u are doing something wrong with your characters...really. Btw...did u read the thread from a Minstrel that killed a 28k Mob??...

But now? What the heck can we do without hunter legendary skills? Yes, "WITHOUT". Nothing... just run away and shout "Plz, don't eat me"!!

At this point... who want to pay a mensual cuote and play a super-nerfed toon? You, mate?

So, the message of the day is: "Hey guy, forget your hunter. All the hunters around are gold-farmers and exploit-lovers (??????). Everybody knows it, so, go and play a LM or Minstrel"

[Spiderdan]

Gah....Why everybody think hunter class in overpowered??? Omg...it's just an urban legend!!
Yes, some of us killed Snowback and some tough elites in the past (is that a crime?), but never as easy as other classes can. And I usually had to carry some food/pots to defeat them.
If u champions, lore masters or minstrels can't easily kill those elites, then u are doing something wrong with your characters...really. Btw...did u read the thread from a Minstrel that killed a 28k Mob??...

But now? What the heck can we do without hunter legendary skills? Yes, "WITHOUT". Nothing... just run away and shout "Plz, don't eat me"!!

At this point... who want to pay a mensual cuote and play a super-nerfed toon? You, mate?

So, the message of the day is: "Hey guy, forget your hunter. All the hunters around are gold-farmers and exploit-lovers (??????). Everybody knows it, so, go and play a LM or Minstrel"
Lvl 52 ME troll with 38k? Think I read about that somewhere. To think, minstrels moaning about a nerf too?

First off, I wouldn't contemplate taking an elite on that wasn't green. (I'm a champ btw) Suicide comes in far prompter forms than that! I tried it with CB pre-patch but stun got rid of that. Not tried it since patch. Even with the mobs being green, I wouldn't consider taking more than one on a viable option. That said, normal mobs, I can chew through a couple at a time even when they are orange.

Ya'll are moaning about a nerf, but at the end of the day, no class is meant to be able to bring down an elite on their own. The true heroes are the main characters of the story, not us. We're just a handy bi-product helping them on the way.

So what's changed? You've got increased power costs, fear now breaks on damage.... and? I'll be honest, a small heal like our Bracing Attack wouldn't go amiss, but come on, where is the fuss? The hunter looks to be working as it should, as is the champ. And, for that matter, the burglar, captain and guardian look to be as well. To be honest, LMs have always struck me as being hard to kill because they can constantly chain stun and wait for regen whether it's in combat or not. What can you expect from a CC class? Nerf the LM, nerf the CC. Same with misntrels, you can't beat something that can heal so regularly and with such a low power cost.

Let's not forget, if they are in a group, they've got more than just themselves to think about. Minstrels have to heal a group, LMs have to CC a group and nobody can take on more than one elite.

By the way, my alt is a lvl 48 minstrel. And I also have a low level LM climbing up the ranks too. At the end of the day, it's working as it should. What can you expect to be changed? Nobody is meant to be able to take down an elite on their own. Even the ones that can do it are only able to because of their natural class build. I'll be honest, people whining about nerfs - and this was the same for champions might I add - seem to be more bothered by the fact another class can do what they can't. Simple fact is, why did you pick that class?

[Insomniel]

Well it seems now that strike idea is working. Already we have two champs discussing here :)

Yes, I agree, no one should solo equal level elites, what more I would expect that hunter is the only class which should be able to do so (considering description and flavour). Yet, it is the only class that cannot. Even guardians can solo 2lvl higher elites (my friend), not speaking about Minstrels and LMs.
And why I did pick this class ? For description and flavour.
I have 3 other alts - LM, Minstrel and Champ, so I should not moan and whine - I will be able to kill equal lvl elites after all.

But back to the topic. Taxi drivers unite :)

[zimoo]

I'm not unhappy that I can't solo equal level elites (never expected to be able to), I'm just unhappy that other classes solo with them ease.

Had a CD group once when the rooms we were in all locked, so the boss we were supposed to be fighting (elite master undead...so the mob type they'd struggle most with) started fighting the loremaster solo without anyone else able to help. Completely unprepared, after a tough previous fight (i.e. might have been missing cooldowns) they defeated the boss without a problem. 'Working as intended'? Note this was pre-patch so no special new skills to counter the undead. This was not a particularily well-equipped loremaster, but how come their class is able to kill bosses meant for a whole group, whereas hunters struggle with level44 elites :/

Then in the patch they get a new pet that out-dpses us...B.E.A.utiful.

[Felindor]

Originally Posted by Spiderdan
Ya'll are moaning about a nerf, but at the end of the day, no class is meant to be able to bring down an elite on their own. The true heroes are the main characters of the story, not us.

Thx for your reply Spiderdan. I totally agree with that. But we are not talking about a utopian realm...we are talking about a sad reality: LM, and Minstrels, even Guardians and some Champions CAN kill elite mobs nowadays (i saw them farming!!). Hunters can't after Book 11.

Obviously, i'm not ONLY moaning about the nerfs (i can accept a nerf on regular/normal powers, but....on legendary powers too??), i'm moaning cause i can't solo my character as i want. Must I create another class just for soloing?

Just a note: As a hunter (main), i'm not looking at other classes with jealous (i play some alts too). I'm not crying for a super-pet or a super-heal. I'm not a "Troll" shouting "NERF LYNXXXX". I just want back my legendary traits, that's all.

Devs nerfed Fear cause the "chain fear" thing. Well...what about "chain stun" o "constant healing"? LM is the real "destroyers" now, and everybody is going to create one. You will see. (Again... i'm not moaning about LM's. I just want my pre-Book 11 Hunter back).

[Provideniya]

Yep, maybe I take a little breik with my main Hunter, and fast-level my LM and Minstrel alts instead, as they sound like they have power to fight against the dark hand of corruption.. Thought I am going to miss those days when I felt like I were a strong player against Delving Field and later Weatherway Wolves..

[MADMAXRR]

I cant understand why they dont improve the other classes, and destroy our class.

Im a hunter, woodworker, and im a freep. So, what im doing in this game ? AoC please...

[Spiderdan]

Can I make another point about attacks breaking fear - what about attacks breaking an LM's stun?

[Kuku]

At the end of the day, it's working as it should. What can you expect to be changed? Nobody is meant to be able to take down an elite on their own. Even the ones that can do it are only able to because of their natural class build. I'll be honest, people whining about nerfs - and this was the same for champions might I add - seem to be more bothered by the fact another class can do what they can't. Simple fact is, why did you pick that class?

I can only speak for myself here but I suspect others might have the same motivation: I picked the Hunter class because this class, inferred from hunters in other games and as advertised in the manual, suited my playstyle and appealed to my imagination. I picked the class with the (IMHO) entirely reasonable assumption that every class was more or less equally well equiped to get through the content and go after tasty drops.

Let me turn your question around. Assuming no one is supposed to solo Elites, and things are being corrected to work as they should, why did Turbine pick what was already one of the weakest soloing classes to swing the nerf bat at first? (That is if other classes will even be nerfed at some point as well).

Even those people who picked the Hunter class when the game launched, and knowing full well what the class' capabilities and limitations would be at level 50, have cause to complain, as the class has endured one setback after another with every Book. To dismiss those complaints as "whining" is rather unfair. :(

[zimoo]

Can I make another point about attacks breaking fear - what about attacks breaking an LM's stun?

Fair enough, attacks do break their mezzes (not stuns). However, if a mez is broken they can then stun the mob for a few seconds, then root them for a few more by which time their mez will be recharged. Hunters can't chain their cc.

[jeffers727]

and then theres the fact our CC now brings more enemies, negating it even really being worthy of being called CC. and if someone says it makes sense that they call for help, surely if you pull a mob, any mob they then passed should be pulled too under this logic =) and theres many other issues which break logic.

[Druman]

To those posting who do not have a level 50 hunter, or as the case seems to be, do not have a hunter at all... please go create one, get it to level 50 and then come back. Making comments based on heresay or what you heard is not constructive and is what is causing this class to be continously nerfed.

Examples:

I heard that Lore Masters can out DPS a hunter (never played a LM but omg, I think they should be nerfed because of this...)

I saw a Minstrel saying that they solo'd a 38k level 51 Master Elite and they posted screenshots. That should not be possible for a healing class and they should be nerfed!

Now, in both my examples, I have never played a high level LM or a high level Minstrel and therefore my opinions do not count and are based on what I heard, not what I did. Until people have played and experienced the difficulties a class faces, they should not comment on it.

[Sy-]

Can I make another point about attacks breaking fear - what about attacks breaking an LM's stun?

When our fear lasts 30s and has a cooldown of 15s, then you can call it even. Just about.

Fear was basically a poor man's stun before, now it's a gimped mez. One that is likely to bring in adds rather than lockdown a mob like Blind does. Bring in diminishing returns into PvE for LMs and see how they like having a short mez duration.

[Miramulios]

Hey all,

Hunter level 50 Evernight.

Made level 50 a few weeks before the "Month of the Hunter" update. That release changed my play style to power conservation and for the first time i kept a supply of Lembas and changed my stance to endurance mostly.

This i could live with, it’s not so bad a change, but with these changes i realized what in reality could happen to my class, or ANY class.

So shortly after its release are started 4 alt characters, LM, Min, champ and burg.

Hated burg, couldn’t really get behind it and left it at level 12,

Champ i still mess with now and again, got it to level 23...

LM enjoyed but struggled with, it’s at level 17, and i play it now and again.

Minstrel really enjoyed, and i have taken to 34 and still going.

Now with the release of book 11 and what happened to my main, i'm glad i put the effort in back then to get some other classes up and running.

My hunter before book 11, and after month of hunter releases, could solo two 4000 moral wights in Imlad, and not struggle, trap, Bards arrow, fire pots and healing and power pots, rain of thorns etc etc...

Now struggle to do the same, usually either end up running if I draw a crowd with fear, or end fight victorious with 300 moral and '0' power.

Its not that the class is no-longer playable, It’s just do not understand why the devs and programmers want to change classes negatively?

We play this game to enjoy ourselves, talk to people, kill things get items and get skills, Explore and de-stress ourselves...

The changes to hunters make it a struggle, not a pleasure to play the class.

That’s why i’m leveling my Minstrel up so fast i barely ever log onto my Hunter unless i need some money for the minstrel or something made.

Minstrels are brilliant to play!

I grouped with a similar level minstrel last night and we teamed up on full fellowship quests above and at our level, one in war stance, one out of it as the main healer, we were unstoppable and did good damage and tag healed ourselves.

Easy class to play now. AND more importantly a FUN class to play that is much much more valuable in a fellowship then hunters will ever be again at the moment except as a taxi.


(Long post sorry)