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Vanguard DOTA
04-06-2007, 09:46 PM
Hello i reached level 28 not long ago and i am habing the probles with the following:

1)Melee Weapons
2)Fire-Oil
3)Profession Issue

1) Is the best two weapons to have in your Main Hand & Off Hand slot Sword + Sword, or is it Dagger + Sword or perhaps another combination. I like spears but they seem rather slow. Are Gondorian Swords worth the money or are hey easily replaced by quest items?

2) Is it me or are they completely useless? I used it during a fight with an Elite and various other mobs but nothing happened. I do just right-click them don't I? And i do have the skill :)

3) I started as a Explorer and now beginning to get tired of the Prospecting & Tailoring, the Foresting i enjoy. I was thinking of moving onto Woodsman but how valueable are the bows i can make to myself and everyone else?

SCM
04-06-2007, 10:22 PM
Ok will answer from what my current set up is at lvl 27

1) I am using 2 quest reward weapons for dual wielding and these are an axe and mace, with added damage to spiders on one and troll kind on another. I tend to when i have the added damage weapons to swap about to suit the mobs i am questing after. This can be done with any weapon though but i tend to stick to hammer, mace, sword, dagger or club dont bother with spears.

2) The fire oil skill from memory is skill you need to learn first before you can use the oils, think its a passive skill you need to learn for this.

3) At your level the quest/looted bows are geenrally a little bit better than the bows you can make for yourself. For newer hunters the bows you can make will be useful to them as they advances, i know thats what i did for my hunters made them bows until quest/looted items left anything i could make for my level behind.

SCM

Sleek
05-06-2007, 08:32 AM
im lvl 34 almost 35 and Im still using 2xgondorian swords apart from occasionally when I swap them out for some +moral weapons. haven't seen a single quest item that competes with the agi bonus from those swords.

However the increase in damage from Agility is negligible and to be honest you will find increased moral/power regen in/out of combat and increase to max power/moral much more useful than agi while leveling. It just so happens I had the cash to buy the swords when I was a wee hunter. Now im skint and need cash for my horsie :(

your melee DPS also starts to fall behind if you use gondorian swords for a long time, this isnt much of a problem as I dont tend to go toe to toe with mobs other than to finish them off but it is annoying when you auto attack them for like 30 dmg :)

Stigmata89
05-06-2007, 11:13 AM
I'm lvl 43 and I kept gondorians swords till lvl 42 both. I prefer 2 more AGI from each sword (there are quests that give AGI+14 daggers/swords)

I only changed 1 gondorian sword to Willowsarm. Might+24 AGI+24 Club! Wooohoo I love that Old man will's branch!

So yes Gondorian swords are worth the money (but theyare cheap hahahah)


Just keep quest rewards and swap weapons on need. But I rarely swaped my Gondorians swords. Whats the use of Melee DPS when you kill everything before it comes to melee range ?

Wolfrim of Rohan
05-06-2007, 12:32 PM
I dropped my Gondorian Swords by level 31 or so. The agility bonus does not add THAT much compared to being able to finish an equal-level mob with a single melee style when it closes in, arrow-riddled and suffering.

I kept them for a level or two just in case I missed them... then they went on the AH.

Elent
05-06-2007, 12:50 PM
I'm lvl 43 and I kept gondorians swords till lvl 42 both. I prefer 2 more AGI from each sword (there are quests that give AGI+14 daggers/swords)

I only changed 1 gondorian sword to Willowsarm. Might+24 AGI+24 Club! Wooohoo I love that Old man will's branch!


I am a stout defender of Agility maximization and thus killing advancing/charging mobs right there in their tracks :)

So, where do you get this club Willowswarm from :)

regards,

Elen

Stigmata89
05-06-2007, 01:15 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/C_W/willowsarm.jpg

I bought it from Auction...

Tr1Cky
06-06-2007, 06:57 AM
Personally im level 49 and I use two Axes from quest rewards. I tend to use what ever I can find has the best stats, as an Elf you get 2% racial sword bonus but to be honest im finding it difficult to find a good sword at high level.

Ive done Dual Daggers, Sword + Dagger, Spear + Sword, Dual Axes and pretty much every other combination you can think of. Nothing really stands out over the other so just take what you can get. 99% of the time you wont be using them to fight with anyway, your dual weapons I find are purely for stats. Ive always found it handy to look for the +Power regen in combat ones.

Teriodin
06-06-2007, 07:46 AM
For melee, I use two Hammers for the +morale and occasional stun. The stun proccing has saved my bacon a couple of times when I've been low on power and needed to get out of there :)I know agility is good, but I just like my hammers...

Belechael
06-06-2007, 08:17 AM
1) Is the best two weapons to have in your Main Hand & Off Hand slot Sword + Sword, or is it Dagger + Sword or perhaps another combination. I like spears but they seem rather slow. Are Gondorian Swords worth the money or are hey easily replaced by quest items?

From what I've read so far there is no off hand weapon penalty. If there is, someone please point the relevant Dev post to me. So, you can use whatever is best for you at any given time.

I also had at least one Gondorian sword at some point for several levels, but the quest items you get when you reach Angmar (Shiny metal dagger), and Misty Mountains are much better.


2) Is it me or are they completely useless? I used it during a fight with an Elite and various other mobs but nothing happened. I do just right-click them don't I? And i do have the skill :)

Well, they are not utterly useless, but they take a lot of space in the bags, and they last for so little time that for me they are not worth it. Light oil does more damage to Undead, but I haven't checked the difference, so you will just have to test it on your own, if you can afford it or have a scholar friend make some for you.


3) I started as a Explorer and now beginning to get tired of the Prospecting & Tailoring, the Foresting i enjoy. I was thinking of moving onto Woodsman but how valueable are the bows i can make to myself and everyone else?

You get the best bows from quests, but they are usually hard fellowship quests and you might stick with something you have crafted because of that. The reward from Ivar Bloodhand or the Trolls from south Lonelands (don't remember the name of the quest) give excellent rewards for us, for example, and the same thing holds true for the higher levels. If you spend a lot of time reaching Grand Master, and I mean a lot, then you will be able to craft incomparable (light blue) bows for level 47 before you get any better ones from rewards, but be warned: it's a very slow procedure.

Vargur
06-06-2007, 02:19 PM
As for the explorer route. I am kicking myself for not doing that for my hunter, who is my main. My crafted bows tend to lag slightly behind quest reward bows, and as an Explorer main, you will find it easier to gather the ore and wood if you have alts that do other crafts.

Vanguard DOTA
06-06-2007, 03:18 PM
Thanks for the post guys, keep them up.

zimoo
06-06-2007, 07:03 PM
I personally have been using hand-crafted bows for about 18 of the last 20 levels (switching only briefly to my lvl30 hunter quest reward). Their stats are about the same if you go for brought recipes rather than the beginning stuff, and I get a warm fuzzy feeling from using something I made myself :).

Vanguard DOTA
06-06-2007, 10:35 PM
So i have concluded that weapons from a vendor are the worst. Am i correct?

Squidgoggulas
07-06-2007, 06:32 AM
So i have concluded that weapons from a vendor are the worst. Am i correct?

Weapons from the vendor are only the very basic stuff - no good stats or anything like that eventhough you might find decent DPS on them.

zimoo
07-06-2007, 08:00 PM
Yeah I wouldn't reccomend getting vendor-brought items. As soon as I reached heavy armour level with my captain I went and brought a vendor set of heavy armour for a very large amount of money which absolutely sucked, I'm pretty sure my hunter had better armour when he was at the same level O_o

Vanguard DOTA
07-06-2007, 11:03 PM
Yeah I wouldn't reccomend getting vendor-brought items. As soon as I reached heavy armour level with my captain I went and brought a vendor set of heavy armour for a very large amount of money which absolutely sucked, I'm pretty sure my hunter had better armour when he was at the same level O_o

Ouch, just like farming a complete waste of money.

Anyone else agree farming is useless? A 'tater' seed cost me 1s+ and the priduce is a mere 12c and i'm lucky to get 4.

zimoo
08-06-2007, 05:40 PM
Yeah it is poor atm, improvements are coming soon though :)